Studs and Duds, Burnt Sienna's:

[Upnorth]

Let's try this again after a sleep.
Studs Sullivan and stokes. And the pass blocking of oline. I didn't realize rodgers wasn't sacked.

[King Friday]

Jones is moving really well right now. He looks as good as I’ve ever seen him. Dillon has done a lot this year and is a big part of the reason Jones is so fresh. But damn, Jones is fresh and needs the ball.

The series swapping isn't working. Jones needs to be the starter and get most of the touches. Dillon better be the short yardage back...not in the shotgun...the rest of the year. If Jones needs a breather, you put Dillon in. This isn't rocket science. The fact our millionaire coaching staff can't figure it out is concerning.

[King Friday]

Packer defense needs Z and Alexander back. The backups aren't going to play at a Pro Bowl level all season. If we don't get those guys back, I don't see a real chance at a title this season. We have lost way too much on the OL to have a dominant offense. Our offense is what it is at this point. Rodgers has to get the ball out very quickly, and good defenses will expose that. The OL was not all that great on Saturday. Everything is on Rodgers being able to make quick decisions correctly and get the ball out. With a lesser QB, this OL would look like shit. We can't overpower teams offensively, so if the defense can't stop anyone, we don't have a real chance. In the playoffs, we won't get numerous gift INTs to bail us out.

[texaspackerbacker]

I tend to doubt Zadarius is coming back. Even if he does, that's not gonna do a helluva lot for run stopping.

Our O Line is studdish because of no sacks? Come on. Rodgers was pressured on virtually every pass play, and we got virtually no holes for Jones and Dillon to run through. The little bit of run success we had was without much blocking, and the no sacks was the result of Rodgers' mobility and quick release.

I strongly agree with what Friday said above about RB usage.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Packer defense needs Z and Alexander back. The backups aren't going to play at a Pro Bowl level all season. If we don't get those guys back, I don't see a real chance at a title this season. We have lost way too much on the OL to have a dominant offense. Our offense is what it is at this point. Rodgers has to get the ball out very quickly, and good defenses will expose that. The OL was not all that great on Saturday. Everything is on Rodgers being able to make quick decisions correctly and get the ball out. With a lesser QB, this OL would look like shit. We can't overpower teams offensively, so if the defense can't stop anyone, we don't have a real chance. In the playoffs, we won't get numerous gift INTs to bail us out.

We should get Turner back, maybe Bakh, and possibly Myers. Having MVS helps. Other teams can’t just squat on the short stuff all of the time.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I disagree slightly on Dillon vs Jones. Late in the year in bad weather games, I’d like to see Dillon get as many carries as Jones, but I’d like to see us pass more to Jones. MLF tends to give up on the run too quickly—even when it’s working. Fat Mike did the same thing.

[texaspackerbacker]

No no no. LaFleur went to run first in the second half yesterday, and that was a big mistake it almost always is. McCarthy used to do the same thing - take the ball out of Rodgers' hands.

Jones or Dillon? Dillon has his role, and he's damn good at it, but Jones is better, usually even on short yardage for a team like the Packers that more often than not doesn't get any decent O Line blocking.

[George Cumby]

Jones got hurt late in the game, yesterday.

I get the match-up thing, but Dillon is younger, bigger and stronger. Jones needs to be on a pitch count or he's gonna' get hurt.

Friday is right, alternating series isn't working.

MLF has to find a way to make holistic use of these two in a way that takes advantages of match-ups, protects Jones and gets first downs.

[George Cumby]

The Packer defense looks nothing like the unit playing D a month or six weeks ago. They look listless, guys using the same pass rush moves over and over, defenders running up to a nearly-finished-but-not-quite play and just watching. Secondary scratching their heads about botched assignments.

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Six weeks ago we had the D we had been wanting for years and now it's gone like a fart in the wind.

WTF happened?

[smuggler]

No no no. LaFleur went to run first in the second half yesterday, and that was a big mistake it almost always is. McCarthy used to do the same thing - take the ball out of Rodgers' hands.

This was my thought as well. We did the right thing on the last third down, but Davante had an uncharacteristic drop.

[HarveyWallbangers]

No no no. LaFleur went to run first in the second half yesterday, and that was a big mistake it almost always is. McCarthy used to do the same thing - take the ball out of Rodgers' hands.

Jones or Dillon? Dillon has his role, and he's damn good at it, but Jones is better, usually even on short yardage for a team like the Packers that more often than not doesn't get any decent O Line blocking.

The first drive was mostly runs. Those 6 runs got 48 yards. We passed when we got inside the 15 and those passes didn’t work. Settled for a FG. The next drive neither Jones nor Dillon got the ball and we went three and out. The next drive was like we were wearing off the clock and ran it three times. Got 8 yards and then did the pitchout to Jones. The final drive went pass, run, pass, pass, pass, punt. I like it when we run to get Rodgers into 3rd and medium or short. Rodgers is so deadly on those. It was really weird playcalling in the second half.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Six weeks ago we had the D we had been wanting for years and now it's gone like a fart in the wind.

WTF happened?

Ming the Merciless got hurt, that’s what happened. I’d argue that the Packers miss Mercilus more than the Fucking Center.

By now it’s obvious that Berry runs the bland “Bend and Fuck” defense where success is predicated upon the front 7 stopping the run and more importantly, the 4-men rush hitting home. Gary Lightbody and P-Smith have been ballin’ but, thanks to the pussification of the game, both lack the stamina to be ballin’ every fucking down like Reggie White used to ball back in the days of 2-a-day training camps and unlimited full pads/live tackling practices.

Depth at OLB is important in the modern Bend and Fuck Defense. Gotta have a 3-4 men rotation of bona fide OLBers. Otherwise, more often than not, the D will be fucked. Right now the Packers have #40, Tila Tequila, in their rotation. That’s how fucked Pack D is at OLB.

Could Z-Smith return to save the D? Perhaps, hopefully. In the meantime (and as insurance), why not bring back the Claymaker?

[HarveyWallbangers]

12 carries for 71 yards and 3 catches for 21 yards in the second half for AJ squared. 9 for 23 yards on the other plays. Honestly, the numbers are fine, but the sequencing was weird.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ming the Merciless got hurt, that’s what happened. I’d argue that the Packers miss Mercilus more than the Fucking Center.

By now it’s obvious that Berry runs the bland “Bend and Fuck” defense where success is predicated upon the front 7 stopping the run and more importantly, the 4-men rush hitting home. Gary Lightbody and P-Smith have been ballin’ but, thanks to the pussification of the game, both lack the stamina to be ballin’ every fucking down like Reggie White used to ball back in the days of 2-a-day training camps and unlimited full pads/live tackling practices.

Depth at OLB is important in the modern Bend and Fuck Defense. Gotta have a 3-4 men rotation of bona fide OLBers. Otherwise, more often than not, the D will be fucked. Right now the Packers have #40, Tila Tequila, in their rotation. That’s how fucked Pack D is at OLB.

Could Z-Smith return to save the D? Perhaps, hopefully. In the meantime (and as insurance), why not bring back the Claymaker?

There’s truth to this. Tipa should not be seeing snaps on a good team. But we lost Big Z and then Merciless. There has to be somebody out there better than Tipa.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

There’s truth to this. Tipa should not be seeing snaps on a good team. But we lost Big Z and then Merciless. There has to be somebody out there better than Tipa.

Like the Claymaker. Matthews is familiar with the D. If he’s in shape, no reason he can’t be a competent pass rush specialist.