What happened to ML's offense?

[kcpackman]

In my opinion, this years offense has not looked like ML's offense his first 2 years.

Am I just seeing things wrong? I dont see the jet motions, misdirection, and specific WR route set ups very often.

[MadScientist]

I don't think you are seeing things wrong. There are a lot less of jet motions and misdirection. The possible reasons are
1) MLF took them out because they were not working. (doubtful)
2) The o-line injuries make those plays less likely to work. (maybe)
3) Rodgers didn't like them, and removing them was part of what was needed to get him to return. (likely)

[bobblehead]

I think we have run them still. Less often, but somewhat more effectively when we do. I think its the result of a coordinator with eyes upstairs watching for when defenses start committing too early and then we run them to bring back the integrity so standard plays work better. Thats just a guess, but given less of them, but more effective I think I am right. There is no reason to run a play like that if the defense isn't overpursuing.

[Joemailman]

I kind of thought Amari Rodgers was drafted to run the jet sweep. Whether they're not running it much because Rodgers isn't ready, or whether Rodgers isn't playing more because the jet sweep isn't a big part of the offense seems unclear.

[RashanGary]

I kind of thought Amari Rodgers was drafted to run the jet sweep. Whether they're not running it much because Rodgers isn't ready, or whether Rodgers isn't playing more because the jet sweep isn't a big part of the offense seems unclear.

This. Those missing parts of the offense are probably related to personnel. They’ll run what their players do well and make counter plays off that.

You’ve seen more quick passing too. That’s because the young OL.

It’s different players this year so a different offense. Next year will be different again. Maybe more jet sweeps with Amari next year.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'll go with personnel too. Lately, we've had some success with Lazard running those plays, but that's just for a decent gain of a few yards, not a big play. We still run the motion virtually all the time to detect whether the D is in man or zone coverage.

[Bretsky]

Been saying for multiple weeks we are under utilizing AJO in the pass game. He was a weapon last year when we put him in motion and/or let him run some real routes. Rarely occurs anymore. But PPG, the offense is still working

[King Friday]

The OL is the cause of all of this. The OL right now it's not a great unit. Rodgers is making it look ten times better than it would if an average QB were under center.

[texaspackerbacker]

I agree, Friday, but as I've always said, it has pretty much always been that way.

[smuggler]

Bakhtiari missed the entire season. Case closed.

[RashanGary]

Bakhtiari missed the entire season. Case closed.

Someone called me an idiot during the offseason for listing Bakhtiari as an average player for 2021. I thought the knee was going to slow him down. I didn’t think it would slow him down so much that he couldn’t play. I figured he’d play less effectively.

[King Friday]

I agree, Friday, but as I've always said, it has pretty much always been that way.

Not really. Bahk is a great player when healthy. So is Jenkins. We don't have either right now. Losing that amount of talent on the line is going to have a major impact. In terms of pass blocking, a healthy Packer OL is one of the best in the league. That is why we rang up 80 percent in red zone TDs last year.

[RashanGary]

Not really. Bahk is a great player when healthy. So is Jenkins. We don't have either right now. Losing that amount of talent on the line is going to have a major impact. In terms of pass blocking, a healthy Packer OL is one of the best in the league. That is why we rang up 80 percent in red zone TDs last year.

From last years OL we lost Bakhtiari, Lindsley and Jenkins. That’s three probowlers gone.

[texaspackerbacker]

Not really. Bahk is a great player when healthy. So is Jenkins. We don't have either right now. Losing that amount of talent on the line is going to have a major impact. In terms of pass blocking, a healthy Packer OL is one of the best in the league. That is why we rang up 80 percent in red zone TDs last year.

Correlation does not automatically equal causation. Causation equals Rodgers.

[Upnorth]

I think it's oline injuries that are reducing the effectiveness of our run game that is changing our o. Last year we had an above average (at the least) to almost great run blocking line. Combine that with the rodgers threat and a te on point with catching everything and you could unbalance a d.
This tear we have a poor run blocking line and our best pass catching te is 37. Our o is no where nearly as diverse.


I wonder why????