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  • #16
    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
    I think it's oline injuries that are reducing the effectiveness of our run game that is changing our o. Last year we had an above average (at the least) to almost great run blocking line. Combine that with the rodgers threat and a te on point with catching everything and you could unbalance a d.
    This tear we have a poor run blocking line and our best pass catching te is 37. Our o is no where nearly as diverse.


    I wonder why????
    Good points.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      OL.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
        OL.
        i don't think its o-line

        if you don't trust the o-line then why are we still looking for deep passes so often?

        i think its a-rod running what he wants, just like he did with fat mike

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        • #19
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          Correlation does not automatically equal causation. Causation equals Rodgers.
          Then why aren't we scoring 80% of the time this year? We still have Rodgers.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • #20
            The way we use correlation not equaling causation today would make the scientists who originally said that roll in their graves. It used to mean that where you find correlation is a great start for further research. Now it is used to dismiss counter points lazily.
            Often when there is correlation there is some degree if causation.
            I believe with our ol there is a fair amount of causation. I would love to hear John Madden compare last year vrs this years oline.
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • #21
              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
              Then why aren't we scoring 80% of the time this year? We still have Rodgers.
              Too much running the ball. You heard Collingsworth say "time to unleash Mannion"? Well, inexplicably, the Packers put a leash on Rodgers more than a team does on a 2nd or 3rd stringer. Get away from "run-first"! That's way we had two FGs and a punt before we scored a TD.

              You asked, I answered.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                Too much running the ball. You heard Collingsworth say "time to unleash Mannion"? Well, inexplicably, the Packers put a leash on Rodgers more than a team does on a 2nd or 3rd stringer. Get away from "run-first"! That's way we had two FGs and a punt before we scored a TD.

                You asked, I answered.
                Except as usual you are dead wrong.

                The Packers threw the ball 56.23% of the time in 2020. We are at 58.35% in 20201.

                So we are throwing the ball more this year and having worse results on O.
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                  Except as usual you are dead wrong.

                  The Packers threw the ball 56.23% of the time in 2020. We are at 58.35% in 20201.

                  So we are throwing the ball more this year and having worse results on O.
                  That really surprises me. It feels an awful lot like the Pack is running more this year than last.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by red View Post
                    i don't think its o-line

                    if you don't trust the o-line then why are we still looking for deep passes so often?

                    i think its a-rod running what he wants, just like he did with fat mike
                    Because you need to keep defenses honest by throwing the deep stuff. Otherwise, safeties can play up and make it even harder to run the ball with your mostly 2nd string offensive line.

                    The O-line is part of the difference this year, but the absence of Tonyan is a factor as well. Opponents had to respect his speed down the seam.

                    Rodgers' average intended yards per pass attempt (There's a stat for ya) was 7.9 last year. It's 7.8 this year. So there doesn't seem to be much difference in how far down the field they're throwing the ball this year.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Interestingly, last night Davante Adams alluded to the Packers Offense and Aarons Offense in a post game interview on the field.

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                      • #26
                        Great website here.



                        In fact Packers passing 62.32% on first down this year. In 2020 it was 61.12%.
                        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                        -Tim Harmston

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                        • #27
                          Stop throwing out stats that contradict Tex. He may start advocating for Adams to go back to the bottom of the depth chart.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #28
                            On the first 4 drives that resulted in just 6 points, the Packers threw the ball 14 times and ran it 9. Rodgers was 9-14 for 71 yards. The 9 rushing attempts netted 79 yards. Packers had 3 plays of over 25 yards. 2 runs by Jones and a pass to Adams. Of the 9 completions, 2 were for no gain, so essentially an incompletion. Packers were trying to throw the ball, it just wasn't working yet.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                              Except as usual you are dead wrong.

                              The Packers threw the ball 56.23% of the time in 2020. We are at 58.35% in 20201.

                              So we are throwing the ball more this year and having worse results on O.
                              Pay attention, fool. I said running too much on early downs is the annoying thing - at least before the GOAT puts us several TDs ahead and we're running out the clock. Some ignoramuses around here still seem to not have proper appreciation for Rodgers and the passing game.
                              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                              • #30
                                A few things the commentators say actually make sense, like that those short passes are basically more like running the ball. Passing the ball down the field is the way to go. That's the only way we did move the ball early in the game, but too often it was after wasting a couple downs running it into the butts of our O Line. Most of the runs that did work were Jones bouncing off those butts and getting outside.
                                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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