Official Packers Offseason/Free Agency Thread

[Joemailman]

I would be 100% shocked if Elgton isn't playing tackle next season. Probably right tackle with Will Turner at LG or RG. Gotta make the yute happy 'cause he is gonna get PAID in a mega extension next year.

Jenkins is unlikely to be ready for the start of the season. So they have to go into next season planning on someone else at RT. Where they put Jenkins when he comes back may depend on where the perceived weak spotin the line is, since he can play anywhere.

[call_me_ishmael]

Jenkins is unlikely to be ready for the start of the season. So they have to go into next season planning on someone else at RT. Where they put Jenkins when he comes back may depend on where the perceived weak spotin the line is, since he can play anywhere.

Ahhh, true, I forgot he is hurt. My hypothesis is he is going to throw a fit if he isn't at tackle because he is going to want to be paid as a tackle (or tagged as a tackle). Wouldn't shock me if he's the highest paid linemen in the league after next season.

[ThunderDan]

Some fools who whine about one and done in the playoffs seemingly would prefer to have the whole season turn to shit. I'll take 13-4 or whatever, myself. Fuck the playoffs. They're a half step more relevant the Pro Bowl.

This perfectly sums up TPB,

"When the games actually count I am OK with the Packers playing like shit."

[call_me_ishmael]

I am kinda off packers stuff for now, but you think losing Z, Campbell, Adams and Douglas while kicking a mountain of cap to next year is the way to win next year? We will have a weaker team going into 2022 and a even bigger cap problem in 2024. This is a perfect recipe for getting slowly worse while destroying chances at a quick turnaround.

This team went one and done in the playoffs WITH those guys.

Not sure I agree. I think it'll all work out just fine. The cap situation is not really that bad IMO. The players that they will push money out on are core guys that are going to be here indefinitely. A potential problem could be if like Kenny retires or something.

The team was missing the two best linemen in the NFL and possibly a top 2-3 corner, had a rogues gallery of crap receivers, etc. They could easily be a better team next year.

[bobblehead]

Did you even read the article? The only one the guy is talking about losing is Z. Smith. No way on Campbell, Douglas, or Adams, and it goes into detail why and how to keep them. The only thing I didn't exactly agree with was the guy says franchise Davante, he says for $19 million. There's no way the team will be weaker in '22 if they do that, and '23, '24, '25 and beyond should continue to be great too.

Some fools who whine about one and done in the playoffs seemingly would prefer to have the whole season turn to shit. I'll take 13-4 or whatever, myself. Fuck the playoffs. They're a half step more relevant the Pro Bowl.

Did you? You kinda channel the old mean lady in FYI right now. That article does not even mention Campbell or Douglas. It says you can tag Adams, but that doesn't solve the problem that he wants stupid cap killing money. Not to mention if you do all the things they suggest, we will be so far over the cap in a year we will be right back here losing just 2 or 3 more good players and trying to kick it further down the road and win with just a little less talent...which is what we will be doing in 2022 already even if we do EVERYTHING they suggest.

[bobblehead]

The offensive line will be better in 2022.

Bahktiari better than anyone we had at LT
Jenkins will eventually be back at LG. He's younger than Bakh and should heal better
Meyers should be much improved
Newman should be much improved
Turner or Yosh at RT should be good

The special teams should be better in 2022.

The secondary should be better in 2022 with Stokes improved and Jaire.

I like the idea of pushing the cap forward and getting the last couple good years out of Rodgers.


Once the ride stops, you get off and have a bad year or two and get your QB. For now, just ride it out and take another shot with the improved areas of the team and bringing most people back.

Some reasonable points. But for every Jaire and Bak you get back, someone else is injured. You can factor in losing 2 key players well before the playoffs. As for squeeze the last couple from Rodgers....yea, if the last several post seasons hadn't happened I would agree. But for my taste I'd take the draft pick haul and move on.

That being said, I have never wavered on what WILL happen. We will kick it down the road, extend Rodgers and sign Adams to a bad team contract. In 2024 we will be in cap hell even WITH the bigger number projected for that season. In effect we are now, and will be the Saints from 2018-2021.

[texaspackerbacker]

This perfectly sums up TPB,

"When the games actually count I am OK with the Packers playing like shit."

Shithead says what?

So the regular season and winning 13 out of 17 doesn't count to you huh? OK, yes that does pretty well sum it up.

[texaspackerbacker]

Did you? That article does not even mention Campbell or Douglas. It says you can tag Adams, but that doesn't solve the problem that he wants stupid cap killing money. Not to mention if you do all the things they suggest, we will be so far over the cap in a year we will be right back here losing just 2 or 3 more good players and trying to kick it further down the road and win with just a little less talent...which is what we will be doing in 2022 already even if we do EVERYTHING they suggest.

OK, granted it didn't mention those two there. I think I was referring to the Basaraki thing in YouTube that did include those two.

It's becoming clear, this article and the YouTube thing plus what I say plus everything coming from the mouth of LaFleur and Gutekunst are saying it CAN be done, and probably without serious consequences down the line, and on the other side of the argument, you have most of the media dipshits as well a lot of posters in here who just don't comprehend the cap saying the opposite. I'll take that split hahahaha.

[texaspackerbacker]

The offensive line will be better in 2022.

Bahktiari better than anyone we had at LT
Jenkins will eventually be back at LG. He's younger than Bakh and should heal better
Meyers should be much improved
Newman should be much improved
Turner or Yosh at RT should be good

The special teams should be better in 2022.

The secondary should be better in 2022 with Stokes improved and Jaire.

I like the idea of pushing the cap forward and getting the last couple good years out of Rodgers.


Once the ride stops, you get off and have a bad year or two and get your QB. For now, just ride it out and take another shot with the improved areas of the team and bringing most people back.

Good Points, RG. Make that 3-5 years instead of just a couple, and you get my vote. I especially like the idea of Jenkins back to Guard when he gets back.

[RashanGary]

Andrew Brandt just said this on Twitter

Have noticed this both while working for a team and since:
Fans and media worry a lot more about NFL teams' Cap issues than the teams do themselves.

[Sparkey]

Clark restructured. Save 10.8 million on 2022cap.

[RashanGary]

Packer fans were so disappointed in the playoff loss, the common sentiment was to blow it up and give up on Rodgers.

But as time churns on, I think that looks more and more an emotional swing.

Running it back and taking another shot seems most reasonable. By the time the cap catches up to us, Rodgers will be 41 or 42 years old and it will be time to find a new one anyway. A couple losing seasons would be good for finding a QB in the draft.

Go all in now and rebuild after Rodgers. That has to be the plan.

[call_me_ishmael]

Some reasonable points. But for every Jaire and Bak you get back, someone else is injured. You can factor in losing 2 key players well before the playoffs. As for squeeze the last couple from Rodgers....yea, if the last several post seasons hadn't happened I would agree. But for my taste I'd take the draft pick haul and move on.

That being said, I have never wavered on what WILL happen. We will kick it down the road, extend Rodgers and sign Adams to a bad team contract. In 2024 we will be in cap hell even WITH the bigger number projected for that season. In effect we are now, and will be the Saints from 2018-2021.

Sure, but can we agree players injured this year were high impact players relative to most years? This wasn't like 2011 with 20 folks on IR but most of them back-ups, etc. These were key guys. Not Davante or Aaron, but next tier down for sure.

I agree with JH's post, which I am shocked by myself but when you're right you're right. The best way to play it out is role the dice, try to win one, then eventually take your medicine, suck for a couple years and rebuild through the draft. Call it the Andy Luck approach I guess. (Lotta nuance there)

[texaspackerbacker]

Andrew Brandt just said this on Twitter

Have noticed this both while working for a team and since:
Fans and media worry a lot more about NFL teams' Cap issues than the teams do themselves.

hahahahahaha DUH!

[RashanGary]

hahahahahaha DUH!

Gutekunst also said eventually they will have to pay up on the salary cap. If it was free money, everyone would be doing it.