Official Packers Offseason/Free Agency Thread

[RashanGary]

Adams wants 27M per season because that is what Hopkins got on his extension.

But Hopkins was playing on a small long term deal and the new money just brought him up to make his deal more fair.

[RashanGary]

Deandre Hopkins signed a two year extension making his deal a 5 year, 95 million dollar deal. It averaged out to 20M per year.

He was on such a small three year deal that part of that extension was to fix his old contract.

Adams is probably trying to get 27M/year or more. The Packers are probably saying that Hopkins deal was not a good measuring stick because it was really a five year deal for less than 100.

[Joemailman]

Deandre Hopkins signed a two year extension making his deal a 5 year, 95 million dollar deal. It averaged out to 20M per year.

He was on such a small three year deal that part of that extension was to fix his old contract.

Adams is probably trying to get 27M/year or more. The Packers are probably saying that Hopkins deal was not a good measuring stick because it was really a five year deal for less than 100.

Yep. And last week Mike Williams of Chargers signed a 3 year, 60M deal with 40M guaranteed. He's good but not in Davante's class. I'm guessing Davante's market value will be between 22-25M. Guaranteed money in year 2 and 3 of the contract may be the real issue.

[RashanGary]

Yep. And last week Mike Williams of Chargers signed a 3 year, 60M deal with 40M guaranteed. He's good but not in Davante's class. I'm guessing Davante's market value will be between 22-25M. Guaranteed money in year 2 and 3 of the contract may be the real issue.

Adams wants to be the highest paid. I am guessing he wants 27.5. And like you said, the Packers want to pay him about 25 per year.

If this contract is signed, the Packers are betting on Adams being one of the rare exceptions who does not drop off after 30.

They already have Bakhtiari on a similar bet.

Gute might be signing extensions that put him out of a job. If those two guys do not pan out, Gute hamstrings himself and his veteran loving approach fails.

The Thompson approach of drafting well and resigning your own had less risks. This could easily blow up in their face.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Adams wants to be the highest paid. I am guessing he wants 27.5. And like you said, the Packers want to pay him about 25 per year.

If this contract is signed, the Packers are betting on Adams being one of the rare exceptions who does not drop off after 30.

They already have Bakhtiari on a similar bet.

Gute might be signing extensions that put him out of a job. If those two guys do not pan out, Gute hamstrings himself and his veteran loving approach fails.

The Thompson approach of drafting well and resigning your own had less risks. This could easily blow up in their face.

I agree, but again, this looks like a 'blow your wad' strategy to try to get that last ring. Not sure they are looking out further than that..

[texaspackerbacker]

It was surprising that the franchise tag would have been as low as $19m. Adams can't be blamed for not wanting that kind of deal. I've said all along we need to extend him long term and greatly reduce the cap number. The only reason not to would be if they think he won't be good 3-5 years from now, and a guy like him who doesn't really rely on speed should certainly be good into his mid-thirties. As for him wanting to be the "highest paid" WR, maybe - or maybe just media bullshit like with Rodgers. He probably deserves to be, and it may end up that way, but I expect what he really wants is a long term contract.

[Fritz]

Well, most people thought Dr. Z would be cut, and he was. Many people thought Prestone Smith would sign something renegotiated, and he did.

But cutting your really good and versatile right guard/right tackle/left guard while Elgton Jenkins is rehabbing from a late-season torn ACL, so you can save, what, three million this year? Wow. Tex, all your stuff about the cap being meaningless is not supported by this move. At all.

Seems like either a dumb move or a desperate move, or both.

[Joemailman]

Well, most people thought Dr. Z would be cut, and he was. Many people thought Prestone Smith would sign something renegotiated, and he did.

But cutting your really good and versatile right guard/right tackle/left guard while Elgton Jenkins is rehabbing from a late-season torn ACL, so you can save, what, three million this year? Wow. Tex, all your stuff about the cap being meaningless is not supported by this move. At all.

Seems like either a dumb move or a desperate move, or both.

Turner was versatile, but in my opinion was only very good at RT. 2 years in a row they put him at LT in the playoffs and it was a mistake. Letting him go will only hurt if RT turns out to be a problem. I suspect they feel Nijman is ready to start and will have more upside.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, most people thought Dr. Z would be cut, and he was. Many people thought Prestone Smith would sign something renegotiated, and he did.

But cutting your really good and versatile right guard/right tackle/left guard while Elgton Jenkins is rehabbing from a late-season torn ACL, so you can save, what, three million this year? Wow. Tex, all your stuff about the cap being meaningless is not supported by this move. At all.

Seems like either a dumb move or a desperate move, or both.

As you say, cutting Z. Smith and restructuring P. Smith was expected. Yes, I did expect them to keep Turner too, but basically he's a small fish in the grand scheme of things, and as I always say (and so many disagree with), O Line is one of the least important positions in terms of the difference between mediocre and good. It just ain't that hard to find mediocre to good O Linemen like Turner.

As for the cap, a lot has to happen in the next couple of days, and I'm confident a lot of good stuff will happen - Adams, Alexander, Tonyan, MVS, Campbell, Douglas, did I forget anybody? I expect ALL of them to be back. Lowry is a maybe - like Turner was. Crosby I don't expect back. Cobb I expect to be cut and maybe re-signed cheap.

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

The #Jaguars are in agreement on a long-term deal with standout LB Foye Oluokun, per
@ajv
. A former 6th rounder from Yale(!) hits it big. He gets 3 years, $45M with upside to $46.5M. There is $28M fully guaranteed at signing.

Devondre Campbell's agent:

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Well, most people thought Dr. Z would be cut, and he was. Many people thought Prestone Smith would sign something renegotiated, and he did.

But cutting your really good and versatile right guard/right tackle/left guard while Elgton Jenkins is rehabbing from a late-season torn ACL, so you can save, what, three million this year? Wow. Tex, all your stuff about the cap being meaningless is not supported by this move. At all.

Seems like either a dumb move or a desperate move, or both.

show just how much cap trouble we're in if we are cutting solid players to save 3 million here or there

[Joemailman]

Packers re-sign Campbell. No terms yet.

Edit: 5 years, 50 million.

[Bretsky]

Packers re-sign Campbell. No terms yet.

Edit: 5 years, 50 million.

Kudos to Tex being right on this one

[Joemailman]

Kudos to Tex being right on this one

Well, if Tex is right they should also be able to sign Douglas, MVS etc. We'll see. Hope so. I don't see the Campbell signing as a surprise. Figured he was a higher priority than the other 2.

[Fritz]

Turner was versatile, but in my opinion was only very good at RT. 2 years in a row they put him at LT in the playoffs and it was a mistake. Letting him go will only hurt if RT turns out to be a problem. I suspect they feel Nijman is ready to start and will have more upside.

Maybe, but to save a mere three million they go from having a deep line, even without Jenkins for the first half of the season, to being thin there. And despite what Tex thinks, the line matters. A lot.

I also disagree with you that Turner was only good at RT. I think it was his best spot, but he held up pretty well at LT in the playoff game this year.

If they were saving a significant sum, then okay. But for three mill? That's not worth cutting him.