Tweet
Originally posted by Joemailman
View Post
-
He's got a hands problem. I just don't like guys who regularly drop the ball. And Lazard had or has a little bit of that, too."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack -
I've rooted for the kid, but always felt disappointed by MVS. I say let him dangle a bit and try to bring him back on a 'discount' if possible. He's talented but has never put it all together, and at this point you have to think he is what he is. His talent is $10M but his production is more like $2M.
His hands have improved but are still shaky at times and he's not a contested catcher. Was absolutely gobsmacked Maurice Drayton had him on the hands team for onsides kicks vs. CHI (week 14. The Bears recovered of course, with 82 seconds to play).
I think he has more value in MLF's offense than others but I'd be disappointed if he signed a multiyear deal for $8-10M per. Would prefer they draft a burner with better hands to run 9 routes for less.Comment
-
The way to beat the cap is not with a one year $7-10m contract. It's multi-year and a prorated bonus. Also, if you see MVS as a high ceiling work in progress, as I do, you don't want to lose him after he has a good year/possible breakout year.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
-
high ceiling, work in progress?Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
the fucking guy is 27. just 2 years younger then adams who some on here think was too old to keep
he's about to be a 5th year vet, he should have gotten it all together by now
rashan gary is already gotten it figured out, he's 24. alexander is already all world, he's 25
time to flush the turd and quit thinking its gonna magically grow into margot robbie if we just give it a bit more timeComment
-
Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
I see him as a deep threat with sporadic consistency. An ideal #3/4 type WR.
I'd value him at about 4-5 MIL/year....probably closer to 5TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
-
Wonder how much cutting Carlos (best punter we’ve had in awhile) for OConnell was assessing his holds on kicks vs cap.The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.Comment
-
-
From Tom Silverstein:
The one-year deal #Packers TE Robert Tonyan received is worth $3.7M and includes $1.75M in incentives, according to a source. The #Packers had to pay because at least three other teams were interested in signing him despite coming off a torn ACL. Says what people think of him.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
-
MVS has already turned into a legit NFL WR. He isn't/won't ever be Adams so that comparison is foolish. He also isn't a top pick like the other guys you mentioned. And a 2 year difference in age when guys are effectively signing 3 year deals is huge.Originally posted by red View Post
That being said, I don't want to overpay him. Reports of him getting $10 million/per are a joke. I'm a huge fan and I will be pissed if we sign him for that. $7 mil is max I can see paying and even that seems a bit stiff. I was thinking $18m for 3 years myself.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
-
You see him from 2 years ago. In the NFCC game in 2020 he was really good. This season he was pretty good when healthy. He is a legit #2/3 who becomes a legit #2 when the MVP is the one throwing to him. All he needed to become better was for our QB to stop staring down Adams all the time.....mission accomplished.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
-
I think it was about the fact that he looked cold after Dec 1st.Originally posted by Fosco33 View PostThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
-
Well, it appears as if the Vikes are in on Smith now. Not confirmed yet, but all signs point to him in vikes Purple next yearOriginally posted by Joemailman View Post
Comment
-
About Bojo versus Irish guy . . . I've read in ACME that the contracts are actually pretty similar, so I'd say - as I have elsewhere - that the holds on kicks had a whole lot to do with it. That and punting badly in cold weather.
One thing I can't figure out is why teams don't use the backup QB as a holder any more. It's not like holders are getting hurt all the time, and then, if you use the backup QB, you have the potential for a fake or for getting a pass or play off if the snap sucks. You could even use a backup WR as a holder, if you wanted to keep Bojo. But his punting really fell off once it got cold. Weird, as he'd punted in Buffalo before.
As for Z Smith, well, if the Vikes sign him, just run to his side a lot. He doesn't hold an edge well and can get fooled on screens, too."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPackComment
-
I know when MM made the switch to punter as holder, he said it had more to do with practice. The backup QB can't be at one end of the field with the offense and at the other end of the field with the ST unit at the same time.Originally posted by Fritz View Post
As for Bojo, maybe Buffalo let him go after the 2020 season for the same reason(s) the Packers did after the 2021 season.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
-
yeah, kickers and punters are both equally not doing much during practice, so they may as well work together at somethingComment
Comment