NEXT YEAR AARON RODGERS WILL BE

[Upnorth]

hahahahaha I want the next decade to be GREAT with Rodgers. Without him, the dark ages are upon us - probably for a decade or more - and I say that being the forum optimist.

To answer your question, though, even two years of Rodgers would be better than what would befall the team without him. Now answer my question. Do you seriously want to get rid of him, knowing that 1-3 years of complete oblivion and x number more of bad to mediocre years would then occur? (or don't you think that would happen?)

I will take a bad year or two for 7 to 9 very good years which a pick list like that likely will bring.
As to them being almost next rd picks, not this year. Then assuming rodgers trusts his receivers it will be late in the round. If not who knows.
I don't think rodgers will be in the league in 5 years let alone 10. If he is playing past 4 more I will honestly be suprised. He has very long odds against to play past 40. Easy to say he will but probability says other wise.

[Upnorth]

Packers still lose the trade on paper but yeah I would for sure do it because 39 years old plus phat contracts. Those picks are basically R2, R3 and R4 though since bottom of the round. Not nearly as good as meets the eye at first glance.

His and Adams contract is the biggest reason for the trade. It gives immediate relief (still more blood to come but a great start) and it gives us opportunities to reload quick. If we dont like this year's qb crop trade back, pick up another one next year and something this year. The more I think about it as a fan of the team the more I want this impossible trade to actually happen.
But it's as lkely to happen as it is for 12 to win another sb.

[Fritz]

His and Adams contract is the biggest reason for the trade. It gives immediate relief (still more blood to come but a great start) and it gives us opportunities to reload quick. If we dont like this year's qb crop trade back, pick up another one next year and something this year. The more I think about it as a fan of the team the more I want this impossible trade to actually happen.
But it's as lkely to happen as it is for 12 to win another sb.

Your posts lately are spot-on.

[texaspackerbacker]

I will take a bad year or two for 7 to 9 very good years which a pick list like that likely will bring.
As to them being almost next rd picks, not this year. Then assuming rodgers trusts his receivers it will be late in the round. If not who knows.
I don't think rodgers will be in the league in 5 years let alone 10. If he is playing past 4 more I will honestly be suprised. He has very long odds against to play past 40. Easy to say he will but probability says other wise.

Ok, that's a fair response. You think he won't last very long, I think he will - agree to disagree.

Where I disagree more with you, though, is the idea of 7 to 9 "very good years" after Rodgers is gone. How many great teams around the league are there with mediocre QBs? Damn few if any. Tennessee is the only one that comes to mind, and I don't really consider them all that great. RG or somebody said the chances of finding a star QB are maybe 1 in 4 in the draft, and even then, they're not Aaron Rodgers level of great. And even if they are great, it takes a year absolute minimum (Burrow) to become great. I like we'd be in for a long spell of mediocrity on the high side if/when he is gone.

[call_me_ishmael]

Tex, Packers were as stacked as a team could be and largely due to Rodgers totally lost that game. Were they a great team? Man I'm not so sure. He sure looked mediocre at best in that game.

[jklowan]

Ok, that's a fair response. You think he won't last very long, I think he will - agree to disagree. Where I disagree more with you, though, is the idea of 7 to 9 "very good years" after Rodgers is gone. How many great teams around the league are there with mediocre QBs? Damn few if any. Tennessee is the only one that comes to mind, and I don't really consider them all that great. RG or somebody said the chances of finding a star QB are maybe 1 in 4 in the draft, and even then, they're not Aaron Rodgers level of great. And even if they are great, it takes a year absolute minimum (Burrow) to become great. I like we'd be in for a long spell of mediocrity on the high side if/when he is gone.

I for 1 totally disagree with this, If the Pack trades Rodgers they will have a pretty talented team and gain a bit of draft capitol. Even with an average QB they should be pretty competitive. I's go on a limb to say this team with Love at QB would win 9-10 games next year given the state of the NFC north. On top of all that they will not be in salary cap hell and the next couple of years they will have a ton of cap space. I am hoping they trade Rodgers and do not push this shit any further down the line. This team with Rodgers ain't winning a bowl, they proved that already

[George Cumby]

What do the following people have in common?

Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Russel Wilson, Nick Foles, Patrick Mahomes.

All have won one (1) Super Bowl in the last 20 years.

Brady (6), Rapist (2), Mannings x2 (2 apiece) account for the rest.

Give me good not great QB, and a great roster.

[Upnorth]

Ok, that's a fair response. You think he won't last very long, I think he will - agree to disagree.

Where I disagree more with you, though, is the idea of 7 to 9 "very good years" after Rodgers is gone. How many great teams around the league are there with mediocre QBs? Damn few if any. Tennessee is the only one that comes to mind, and I don't really consider them all that great. RG or somebody said the chances of finding a star QB are maybe 1 in 4 in the draft, and even then, they're not Aaron Rodgers level of great. And even if they are great, it takes a year absolute minimum (Burrow) to become great. I like we'd be in for a long spell of mediocrity on the high side if/when he is gone.

We may already have one on the roster but I still think we draft one this year (even if arod doesn't go) and unless love is the third coming we draft another next year (if arod is still around). Maybe I think to.highly of Ron wolf but that man drafted more qb talent than almost any gm ever. We need to get back to that or we are fucked for the next decade.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

We may already have one on the roster but I still think we draft one this year (even if arod doesn't go) and unless love is the third coming we draft another next year (if arod is still around). Maybe I think to.highly of Ron wolf but that man drafted more qb talent than almost any gm ever. We need to get back to that or we are fucked for the next decade.

Yeah, I would agree, either this year or next, depending a lot on the Rodgers trade. Many rumors on the trade consisting of some type of a quarterback swap.

[Fritz]

Yeah, I would agree, either this year or next, depending a lot on the Rodgers trade. Many rumors on the trade consisting of some type of a quarterback swap.

I still can't help but think if either the ST hadn't been quite SO putrid, or if Rodgers had played better in the last six minutes, the Packers would be playing in the SB on Sunday.

And honestly, I think Rodgers likes that warmer weather, and that would've been a helluva game. By then, Bakhtiari would've been playing, and the linebacking corp would be at full strength. Would've been fun.

I think the Packers will break the bank and bring Rodgers back for a longer-term deal. The problem I have is that with that cap they won't have as good a team as they did this year - so how will they get to the SB? Because special teams will be better? I don't think at this point Rodgers is suddenly going to play well in the fourth quarter of a playoff game when the team really needs him.

[Bretsky]

It is VERY SAD that the stars just don't seem aligned for the Green Bay Packers to win the Super Bowl anytime soon.

We were loaded this year.

But on a team with annual horrible special team play and special team coaches, we managed to staff the worst ST Coach in GB history....a terrifying thought.

As I watch the Rams and Bengals play this weekend, as all I can think, is the packers have a much more talented roster than either of these two teams.

I don't know who this an indictment on; the football gods are just not Packer fans.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

It is VERY SAD that the stars just don't seem aligned for the Green Bay Packers to win the Super Bowl anytime soon.

We were loaded this year.

But on a team with annual horrible special team play and special team coaches, we managed to staff the worst ST Coach in GB history....a terrifying thought.

As I watch the Rams and Bengals play this weekend, as all I can think, is the packers have a much more talented roster than either of these two teams.

I don't know who this an indictment on; the football gods are just not Packer fans.

It is sorta both, an indication that winning the SB is equal mixture of talent and luck..

[Fritz]

It is VERY SAD that the stars just don't seem aligned for the Green Bay Packers to win the Super Bowl anytime soon.

We were loaded this year.

But on a team with annual horrible special team play and special team coaches, we managed to staff the worst ST Coach in GB history....a terrifying thought.

As I watch the Rams and Bengals play this weekend, as all I can think, is the packers have a much more talented roster than either of these two teams.

I don't know who this an indictment on; the football gods are just not Packer fans.

It is an indictment of:

Maurice Drayton
The organization for not investing in special teams
Matt LeFleur for letting it happen
Aaron Rodgers for having a shrinking wiener in the fourth quarter of the last two playoff games.

[George Cumby]

It is an indictment of:

Maurice Drayton
The organization for not investing in special teams
Matt LeFleur for letting it happen
Aaron Rodgers for having a shrinking wiener in the fourth quarter of the last two playoff games.

100% spot on.

I would add pacifying 12 by picking up his bestie, who really didn't do much other than eat up a roster spot which could've been filled by a young ST ace.

[Joemailman]

Vincent Vega look?