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  • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    Especically from Red; he's usually drunk
    least i have 2 real knees

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    • Originally posted by red View Post
      people really need to quit shiity on rodgers for taking a fake insane amout of money

      florio was reporting that his number was like 67 million per year

      looking at the cap sites now, the guy gave us a huge deal

      his cap numbers for the next 3 years are 28.5, 31.6 and 40.7. those are all low cap numbers for the 2 time defending MVP

      the cap numbers then go way up on the last 2 years (still nowhere near the 67 million that dickhead was saying), but these include massive roster and option bonuses. the team can walk away after the 2024 season and only have a 16 million dollar cap penalty

      hell the team can walk away after the 2023 season and save a ton of cap

      it looks to be a very team friendly deal IMO
      It's a really good 3 year deal for the Packers. However, according to Overthecap, Packers would have 45M in dead cap if they cut or trade Rodgers in 2025. According to Spotrac, the dead cap would be 16M. I assume it has to do with the option bonuses. I don't know how those work.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        It's a really good 3 year deal for the Packers. However, according to Overthecap, Packers would have 45M in dead cap if they cut or trade Rodgers in 2025. According to Spotrac, the dead cap would be 16M. I assume it has to do with the option bonuses. I don't know how those work.
        both sites look really screwy to me, doubt either one actually have the actual numbers

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        • After the three years, we probably restructure/extend Rodgers again and he plays a few more years. If he chooses to retire or fades, as I really doubt he does, then we bite the bullet and suffer the dead money for a couple of years. The cap will be a helluva lot higher by then anyway, and the team will be somewhere between crap and mediocre without Rodgers depending one who the next QB is.
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          • I finally figured out the answer to the original question. 1 and done again if the temperature is below freezing.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • This is a really weird contract though. I have never seen a structure like this before. Andrew Brandt still thinks it’s a one year deal but 80M guaranteed for one year seems stupid. I would have just traded him if that’s the case. So we shall see. No sense in worrying about it or anything. That’s someone else’s job.

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              • Good Signing by Gute if we win a Super Bowl.
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • Who knows if it's correct, but here is how JS claims the dead cap hits work out. If he leaves after the 2023 season, 68 million on the 2024 cap. If he leaves after 3 years, 76.8 million on the 2025 cap.
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                  • Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                    Who knows if it's correct, but here is how JS claims the dead cap hits work out. If he leaves after the 2023 season, 68 million on the 2024 cap. If he leaves after 3 years, 76.8 million on the 2025 cap.
                    If that's right, I'm guessing they would add a couple void years to spread out the cost?
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                      I finally figured out the answer to the original question. 1 and done again if the temperature is below freezing.
                      When I was a kid shooting hoops in the driveway and pretending to be Dave Bing or Dave Debusschere winning on a last-second shot, I'd miss the shot - but wait! Ladies and Gentlemen, there was a foul on the play! And then try again.

                      I think that's what's happening here. Last year was "The Last Dance," so this year is "No, Really, It's the Last Dance," unless they don't win it all - in which case, Rodgers will come back again after hemming and hawing in the offseason, and that will be the"No, Seriously, This Really Is the Last Dance" dance.
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                      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        If that's right, I'm guessing they would add a couple void years to spread out the cost?
                        I would think they would do the Drew Brees fake extension and spread it out over many years, yeah.

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                        • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          I would think they would do the Drew Brees fake extension and spread it out over many years, yeah.
                          Signing bonus becomes a cap hit at either retirement or trade. They might save a little money this year on the cap if it was spread 3 additional years, but when he's traded or retires, it would be much larger. Tells me the Packers' plan is for him to leave sooner rather than later.

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                          • Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
                            Signing bonus becomes a cap hit at either retirement or trade. They might save a little money this year on the cap if it was spread 3 additional years, but when he's traded or retires, it would be much larger. Tells me the Packers' plan is for him to leave sooner rather than later.
                            He doesn't have a signing bonus (yet) but I think they would convert those bonuses into a signing bonus and have a fake extension or something to spread the cap hit out. Does anyone know how this worked with Brees? I know it was a thing but I don't know the details.

                            I could very well be wrong about this. I have never seen a contract like Rodgers so I do not really understand it and am probably wrong in what I'm talking about. I do know he doesn't have a signing bonus so the bonuses that he has are probably eligible to be converted to one which maybe could help? I'm unclear on that. Regardless, I am assuming they will find a way to spread the mega cap hit out for at least two years.

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                            • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                              He doesn't have a signing bonus (yet) but I think they would convert those bonuses into a signing bonus and have a fake extension or something to spread the cap hit out. Does anyone know how this worked with Brees? I know it was a thing but I don't know the details.

                              I could very well be wrong about this. I have never seen a contract like Rodgers so I do not really understand it and am probably wrong in what I'm talking about. I do know he doesn't have a signing bonus so the bonuses that he has are probably eligible to be converted to one which maybe could help? I'm unclear on that. Regardless, I am assuming they will find a way to spread the mega cap hit out for at least two years.
                              CMI I don't know exactly how it worked but you're on the right track regarding the Saints and Brees. You rework the contract and don't file for retirement until after June 1. I believe that would spread the dead cap hit over two years rather then 1.
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                              • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                He doesn't have a signing bonus (yet) but I think they would convert those bonuses into a signing bonus and have a fake extension or something to spread the cap hit out. Does anyone know how this worked with Brees? I know it was a thing but I don't know the details.
                                He does have a signing bonus. He received a 40.8M signing bonus. His cap hit for 2022 is 28.53M (19.173M from his prior signing bonus + 8.16M of new signing bonus (40.8/5) + 1.15M salary+50K workout).

                                His 2023 base salary is 59.5M but they can convert that into a bonus over 4 years. Both the JS and Spotrac say his cap hit would be 31.6M in 2023 should they do this conversion but I'm not seeing how they get to that figure.
                                Go PACK

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