2022 NFL Draft Talk

[texaspackerbacker]

All that kinda says Valdez-Scantling to me - good straight ahead speed. If he can catch and if he has some moves and if his head is on right to learn to run patterns, then he's special. Maybe his shuttle times show more about his moves/pattern running ability.

[Jaire]

By the end of round two there wasn't much left in 2019. And when we picked in round two...the same

I remember watching them get plucked one after the other ahead of our pick.

If I'm thinking of the names right Michael Pittman and TJ Higgins would have been there if we sat instead of trading up for the LoveWreck. Claypool went middle of round two I think

Denzel Mims was picked right ahead of us and then there was a big fall.

We need one of the top 5 IMO. Rodgers has been going years w/o a #2 but he had one of the elite WR's in the game. Right now we don't have a 1 or 2 on the roster. We need something.

That's the wrong year. The 2020 class was very weak overall but strong at WR.

In 2019 the first WR was taken at round one pick 25 and A.J. Brown lasted to 51, Metcalf to 64.

This is a deep class imo at WR -- a lot of prospects and several good fits for GB -- but the DE, ILB, and db's are so deep and a few decent DL too. Not too mention that the OL looks very solid. WR's are going to fall.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1506731074868727813

Sounds like a milf dude.

[run pMc]

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/s...31074868727813

Sounds like a milf dude.

I'd be ok with him as a Day 3 pick. The last play in that clip was what I wanted to see -- how he held up vs. a DL (the first two looked like S/LB blocks even Tonyan could do). He's a big athletic dude you could develop into something, and the Packers are going to need TE depth and it takes a while for those guys to develop anyway. I wouldn't be shocked at all if they took a TE in the mid-to-late rounds... I'm kind of expecting it actually. A 6'7" guy with a sub 4.7 40 running down the seam against a safety is a pretty good matchup for the offense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

When I watch him, I get a bit of a Javon Walker vibe. I looked up their measurables:

Christian Watson = 6'4" 208 with 4.36 40, 1.45 10yd split, 38.5" vertical, 136" broad jump
Javon Walker = 6'3" 210 with 4.35 40, 1.50 10 yd split, 39.5" vertical, 128" broad jump

Watson = 4.21 shuttle, 6.85 3 Cone, 18 bench reps (which was second most by the WRs who have tested so far)
Walker = 4.05 shuttle, 6.86 3 Cone, DNP bench reps

Watson = 6'4 1/8" height, 32 1/2" arm length, 10 1/8" hands
Walker = 6'2 3/4" height, 32 1/2" arm length, 9 3/4" hands

Very similar athletes.

[Jaire]

Just glancing at the receivers, I like this class a lot more than the last two. A lot of interesting guys.

George Pickens and Watson are super special. I can't remember the last prospects I saw that popped out like these two, esp Pickens. And I think the Pack is gonna go after some bigger guys this draft -- I don't see them drafting small unless someone like Shakir in the later rounds.

I don't like the 1st round guys as projected except Burks (considering Williams is injured).

Even more than before, I'd like to see our first two picks used on front seven or OL.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Problem is that we won’t be able to get Pickens or Watson with our 2nd round picks. I’ve come around to the idea of going BPA at #22 and then Pickens or Watson later in the 1st.

[Upnorth]

Problem is that we won’t be able to get Pickens or Watson with our 2nd round picks. I’ve come around to the idea of going BPA at #22 and then Pickens or Watson later in the 1st.

Or trade back into the early 2nd and get a 4th

[Joemailman]

Or trade back into the early 2nd and get a 4th

Gute's track record would suggest he would he would trade both 4th's he has to move up in the 2nd. I'm hoping this year is different.

[Jaire]

Problem is that we won’t be able to get Pickens or Watson with our 2nd round picks. I’ve come around to the idea of going BPA at #22 and then Pickens or Watson later in the 1st.

Now I've watched a bit more Watson and Pickens. I think I'll be "ok" with Watson at 22. He'd be top ten if he were in the SEC. If there are 10 receivers better than him, this will be the best WR draft all time.

[Fritz]

Gute's track record would suggest he would he would trade both 4th's he has to move up in the 2nd. I'm hoping this year is different.

Me too. Trade the third rounder and really move up. Keep the fourths. His and Ted's third-round records are pretty miserable.

[run pMc]

I heard someone throw out the theory that R3 is where they tend to make a need-based pick, or Gute lets someone else make that pick. Anyway, their R3 track record is not good.

I realize trading up worked for picking CMIII and Jaire, but there are too more examples where it really didn't (Spriggs, Jordan Love, Oren Burks) that stick out in my head. For that reason I'd prefer they didn't trade up. With 11 picks they have the ammo. They certainly don't need to trade down... they could just let the board fall and take BPA and probably do just fine.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I heard someone throw out the theory that R3 is where they tend to make a need-based pick, or Gute lets someone else make that pick. Anyway, their R3 track record is not good.

I realize trading up worked for picking CMIII and Jaire, but there are too more examples where it really didn't (Spriggs, Jordan Love, Oren Burks) that stick out in my head. For that reason I'd prefer they didn't trade up. With 11 picks they have the ammo. They certainly don't need to trade down... they could just let the board fall and take BPA and probably do just fine.

Agree

[HarveyWallbangers]

Of the OTs at the combine here are the ones that meet the athletic threshold that I think the Packers have:

Ikem Ekwonu, NC State
Charles Cross, Mississippi St
Trevor Penning, No Iowa
Bernhard Raimann, Cent Michigan (old rookie, so this would seem to rule him out for the 1st round)
Tyler Smith, Tulsa
Abraham Lucas, Washington St
Kellen Diesch, Arizona St
Logan Bruss, Wisconsin
Nick Zakelj, Fordham
Zach Thomas, San Diego St

These guys don't have testing for 40, shuttle, and/or 3 cone:

Rasheed Walker, Penn St
Spencer Burford, UTSA
Matt Waletzko, North Dakota

The last two will likely meet the threshold based off their results from other drills. No idea on Walker since he hasn't tested at all.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If one of the top 3 drops to #22, the Packers will take one of them over a WR. It's unlikely they will drop.

Smith or Lucas could be the Packers pick in round 2, Diesch in round 3, Bruss or Burford in round 4, and the rest probably later.