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Nakobe Dean has been a popular choice as Packers 1st round pick in mock drafts. Undersized (6-0, 225) but explosive linebacker, good in coverage. Some though say his best fit is as Will in 4-3.
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That is very short, wow. Feels more like a safety to me. I bet there are a lot more tweeners this year than ever before. Up and coming position in position-less football.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostNakobe Dean has been a popular choice as Packers 1st round pick in mock drafts. Undersized (6-0, 225) but explosive linebacker, good in coverage. Some though say his best fit is as Will in 4-3.
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This year's group is the smallest since I've started keeping stats. It's been trending that way for awhile. Last year, about the only big ILBs were Micah Parsons (6'3" 246), Zaven Collins (6'5" 259), Baron Browning (6'3" 245). Parsons ended up playing the edge a lot. The days of big, thumping ILBs is about over. This year, the biggest ILBs among the top prospects are Chad Muma (6'2" 241), Damone Clark (6'2" 240), Brandon Smith (6'3" 241), and Quay Walker (6'4" 240). Other guys (Leo Chenal, Darrian Beavers) that may be able to play ILB in a 3-4 are probably better fits as 4-3 SLB. Troy Andersen from Montana State might fit in the category. He's relatively big (and athletic). He's 6'3" 243. Not sure if he's a better fit in a 4-3 or 3-4 yet. I haven't looked at ILB too much.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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I'm about halfway through the TEs. I'm off work and don't have my kids, so I've been pouring over video pretty much all day every day.
I think this is a solid TE group. There aren't any that I would pick in the 1st round. I wanted to dislike Tre McBride because he lacks a bit of size and isn't a great athlete, but he's really solid all around. I think he blocks better than most scouting reports say. He was clean in the two games that I watched.
I see Jeremy Ruckert and Cade Otton as fairly unexciting midround picks, and I don't understand how they are rated more highly than Charlie Kolar. I like Kolar a lot more than the consensus (7th ranked TE on average). Isaiah Likely and Cole Turner are intriguing. Likely is weirdly shaped, but he catches the ball like a WR and is a surprisingly solid blocker. Turner has outstanding potential as a pass catcher (think Tyler Higbee), but he's an awful run blocker. I thought I'd like Jake Ferguson (for some reason I tend to overrate Wisconsin players), but I was slightly disappointed in his tape. There's potential (solid athlete, good receiver), but I had read he was a good blocker, and I thought he was pretty average there."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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I would tend to think it is easier and maybe requires less athleticism to play ILB in a 3-4 than to play MLB in a 4-3 - half the field compared to sideline to sideline.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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I find it funny that there is a Zach Tom and a Zachary Thomas in this draft class. Both are OL that were invited to the combine."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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We need to buy Harv a drink...or two.C.H.U.D.Comment
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I'm super appreciative of all the work some of you guys do in posting this draft stuff. Any decent Washington Huskies in the draft this year?C.H.U.D.Comment
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CB Trent McDuffie should go late 1st or early 2nd.Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
CB Kyler Gordon should go 2nd or 3rd.
TE Cade Outten should be a mid round pick.
OL Luke Wattenberg should be a late round pick."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Dang, Harv, I think you ought to be sending these reports to Gutekunst.
Or, wait . . . ARE you Gutekunst? Oh, you wouldn't reveal that if you were. Got it.
Wait . . . you're a scout who's frustrated that Gutekunst won't listen to you, so you're leaking your knowledge to us so the fanbase will put more pressure on Gutes.
Ah, so that's it. Good work, "Harvey." Keep it going."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Packers have met with Maryland TE Chigoziem Okonkwo. At 6-2, 244 similar in size to DeGuara, so not a guy who will likely line up as inline TE. Currently looks like a 5th round pick.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/c...kwo/h46lT2UXF1Last edited by Joemailman; 02-19-2022, 11:08 AM.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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It'd be cool if it got reported that they were meeting with Shailene Woodley."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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I'm through my initial evaluation of the skill positions. I watched 2-3 games of each prospect invited to the combine. These are guys that I'm higher than the consensus:
QB
Just watching the film, Kenny Pickett is the best QB in this draft. If you didn't know his hands were tiny, you'd say he's easily a mid 1st round pick. He's a safe pick to me. Think Derek Carr. Carr was an easy eval for me, and I had him as my top rated QB in a 2014 draft that included Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, and Teddy Bridgewater that were drafted before him and Jimmy G right after him.
Sam Howell and Matt Corral are hard evals because they were one read and run QBs this year. Both guys ran for 600-850 yards and 11 TDs this year, and they should be guys that run for 300-400 yards/year in the NFL. There is a lot of bad tape on Corral.
Outside of the top 6, my favorite is Cole Kelley from SE Louisiana right now. I like him more than Bailey Zappe.
RB
Breece Hall remains my #1 RB. I like Jerome Ford a bit more than most. I have him higher than Kyren Williams. Tyler Badie is a guy I like much better than consensus. I like Kennedy Brooks higher than most also. Ty Chandler and Snoop Conner are a couple of deep sleepers I like.
WR
WR #1 is probably going to come down to Drake London and Treylon Burks for me--maybe Garrett Wilson. I'm not much higher or lower than consensus on too many WRs right now. Romeo Doubs and Wan'Dale Robinson are a couple of guys that get a lot of buzz, but I just don't see it. Robinson is kind of a gadget guy and Doubs has poor hands. Jahan Dotson is right there with the top five. I'm interested to see how George Pickens and Justyn Ross look at the combine. Consensus has Danny Gray is slightly better than Reggie Roberson between the two SMU WRs, but I like Roberson more.
TE
I like Charlie Kolar and Cole Turner more than the consensus."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Thanks for doing this. Drake London does remind of Mike Evans, although I think Evans was better. Burks is interesting - big body, decent long speed, needs some polishing. Wouldn't be upset if GB picked either.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
Garrett Wilson is a freak athlete but I'm not sure he's better than Parris Campbell. He could be an upgrade over MVS but I don't get future WR1 vibes from him.
Speaking of OSU WRs, I wanted to like Olave more than I did. I still think he's good but somewhere between #5-8 among the WRs in the draft.Comment
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