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Austin will likely be a late round pick. His lack of playing time at Notre Dame, for various reasons, will hold him back. He's likely a developmental player. Packers don't currently have a 6th round pick, but that's where I see him going.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
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But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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What defensive linemen might be available at #22 or #28 that are good prospects? Could that Wyatt kid from Georgia still be available, or is that a fantasy? How about that UConn kid, Travis whatever?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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In just about every mock I have seen all DL are available at 22 & 28 so if we choose to go that route we would have or pick, round 2 is where they seem to start to go.Originally posted by Fritz View PostWhat defensive linemen might be available at #22 or #28 that are good prospects? Could that Wyatt kid from Georgia still be available, or is that a fantasy? How about that UConn kid, Travis whatever?
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostA couple of interesting tidbits about Watson:
1) His dad, Tim, was a 6th round pick in 1992 by the GREEN BAY PACKERS.
2) Ty Fryfogle (a WR prospect from Indiana in this year's draft) was the other starting WR on Watson's high school team.
3) People knock his production, but they don't realize that NDSU ran the ball ~700 times and passed ~260 times last year. It's a team that ran the ball over 70% of the time. He also missed 3 games last year. In that context his production was fine. Andy Herman points out in this video that Christian Watson ran the same amount of routes in his career as Jameson Williams. He had more receptions, more yards, and more yards/reception (fewer TDs).
Who do you like more, Burks or Watson ?TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Based on some sites I've looked at that calculate the odds, Wyatt is probably available at 22. It's about 50/50 on whether he's available at 28. Travis Jones is likely available.Originally posted by Fritz View PostWhat defensive linemen might be available at #22 or #28 that are good prospects? Could that Wyatt kid from Georgia still be available, or is that a fantasy? How about that UConn kid, Travis whatever?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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And that is why "mock draft" analysts are a joke.Originally posted by jklowan View PostIn just about every mock I have seen all DL are available at 22 & 28 so if we choose to go that route we would have or pick, round 2 is where they seem to start to go.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Overall, I lean Burks. For the Packers, I lean Watson. I lean Travis Jones over Devonte Wyatt for the Packers. Here’s my reasoning: we need a good, all around DL to pair with Kenny. I think Jones can be a very good run stuffer—yet also give a team pass rush ability. The other guys are more one dimensional. I’d like to pair another Kenny Clark type next to Kenny. And if Kenny got hurt, God forbid, an ideal substitute for him. So often, when Kenny is injured or playing hurt, the defense suffers miserably.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostWho do you like more, Burks or Watson ?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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But I am a sucker for small school types with elite, or near elite, athleticism. Guys like Watson, Travis Jones, Zion Johnson (started his college career at Davidson), Nick Collins, Zyon McCollum, Greg Jennings, Pierre Strong, Chad Muma, Logan Wilson, Troy Andersen, Brian Urlacher, Leighton Vander Esch, etc. Those guys weren't born with a silver spoon, so you don't normally have to worry about their work ethic. I won't list the ones who were busts.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I just watched some Christian Watson highlight reel. I like his balance and toughness. He is not your typical 6-4 guy who gets tackled easily. He has some jukes and moves and guys bounced off of him. With a RAS like that and having agility for being tall, yeah, he has a good shot.
I thought he looked a little awkward tracking the ball. I am not sure he is as natural of a pass catcher as you would like.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I think you can play Kevin Austin on 33% of the plays and just have him run deep routes over and over. He is so fast and tracks the ball as well as anyone. He can take that MVS spot right away.
Even if he does not develop, and he might not, he is a one trick pony and can take the top off a defense right now.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Well, he's fast and his hands and tracking are good enough. There are lots of areas in his game (release off the line, head fakes, routes, hand fighting, etc.) that need work. You can probably play him on ST in some capacity given his size/speed too. One reason I wasn't a fan of giving MVS a lot of money is you can find fast young guys who can do what he does (run fast, run deep routes).Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI think you can play Kevin Austin on 33% of the plays and just have him run deep routes over and over. He is so fast and tracks the ball as well as anyone. He can take that MVS spot right away.
Even if he does not develop, and he might not, he is a one trick pony and can take the top off a defense right now.
He's worth a Day 3 flier but he's definitely a developmental project. There are a number of guys like that.
It's often the only thing to go on, but beware of highlight clips. By their very nature they are going to show the players at their best, not at their most consistent. If you can get your hands on a player vs. 'team X' video you'll have a better sense of their game.
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I would be really excited about getting Wyatt/Jones/J Johnson (don't think he'll be there though) with one first round pick and a Olave/Burks/Watson with the other. I'm warming up to Dotson as well. Most analysts think Dotson and Watson could both slip into round 1.
I really doubt Jameson Williams is there for us. Part of this depends on who Guters loves best but I'd love to get one stud on D and a potential stud WR. And then I'm coming back with a WR or top TE in round two as well.
Super Bowl or Bust !TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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