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I still think Jameson Williams coming off the injury would be a mistake. Watson would be my first choice, followed by Olave and Burks. I'd like to see us get Kevin Austin in the 3rd or 4th round also.
Now that we signed a quality vet, we could get by with drafting just one, but there's still room for two.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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The name I have heard / seen go to the packers more than any one else, and it's not even close, is olave. I am 99.99% sure we will not get him because of this.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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CorrectOriginally posted by Upnorth View PostThe name I have heard / seen go to the packers more than any one else, and it's not even close, is olave. I am 99.99% sure we will not get him because of this."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I think a of of people having him going to the Packers because his route-running ability might make him more able to start immediately than some other WR's. But because of that I don't think he'll be available to the Packers. Plus, I suspect the Packers have Burks just ahead of Olave due to his superior size and blocking power. Burks outweighs Olave by almost 40 pounds.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostThe name I have heard / seen go to the packers more than any one else, and it's not even close, is olave. I am 99.99% sure we will not get him because of this.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI still think Jameson Williams coming off the injury would be a mistake. Watson would be my first choice, followed by Olave and Burks. I'd like to see us get Kevin Austin in the 3rd or 4th round also.
Now that we signed a quality vet, we could get by with drafting just one, but there's still room for two.
Hell, there is room for 3 draft picks if we want them. We have Watkins who is probably the most talented but a 3, the Lizard, who chemistry wise is tops but another 3 and Randall Cobb who is pretty dam lucky Rodgers loves him or GB would have no interest in using up a roster spot on him.
You can add three draft picks here. Maybe Winfree makes it as well. But you can add a 1st rounder, 2nd rounder, and your guy in the middle rounds and be fine.
I would be incredibly excited to add Williams out of Alabama as wellTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I am probably really stoked for all the guys, and I'd be "ok" with Dotson. I still think Dotson is a guy who should be drafted in 2nd round though.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI'd be okay with all of those guys in round 1--except Dotson.
I've been begging for a round 1 WR for so many years. Beggers (me) can't be choosers
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Last I heard, we still have Malik Taylor. IMO, he's a helluva lot better than Winfree and at least as good as Randall Cobb of the present.
Lazard is plenty good to be a #2 WR. I said a week or so ago, if we got nobody beyond what we had, the Packers would be a winning team - 11 or 12 or 13 wins IMO. Now with Watkins, the Packers are even more solid, and we still are gonna draft some more quality.
I suppose looking at it that way, we could take a chance on Jameson Williams, knowing he probably wouldn't be available early in the season. My issue with him, though is that he may not ever get back to as good as he was - some ACLs are like that. I recall a guy named Nelson who was actually jogging on the sideline when he first got hurt. If we're gonna take a chance on a high potential "project", I'd like it to be Christian Watson.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Lizard is a very average 3. I like Winfrees upside more than a sub par Taylor. Williams is reportedly ahead of schedule but he may not be 100 percent for a good yearOriginally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostLast I heard, we still have Malik Taylor. IMO, he's a helluva lot better than Winfree and at least as good as Randall Cobb of the present.
Lazard is plenty good to be a #2 WR. I said a week or so ago, if we got nobody beyond what we had, the Packers would be a winning team - 11 or 12 or 13 wins IMO. Now with Watkins, the Packers are even more solid, and we still are gonna draft some more quality.
I suppose looking at it that way, we could take a chance on Jameson Williams, knowing he probably wouldn't be available early in the season. My issue with him, though is that he may not ever get back to as good as he was - some ACLs are like that. I recall a guy named Nelson who was actually jogging on the sideline when he first got hurt. If we're gonna take a chance on a high potential "project", I'd like it to be Christian Watson.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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But to me a healthy Williams is an ez call over Watson. Regardless I hope whoever the packers pick turns out to be the best !TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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From what i have seen gute and Lafluer do burks is the higher rated pick for us.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI think a of of people having him going to the Packers because his route-running ability might make him more able to start immediately than some other WR's. But because of that I don't think he'll be available to the Packers. Plus, I suspect the Packers have Burks just ahead of Olave due to his superior size and blocking power. Burks outweighs Olave by almost 40 pounds.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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123-1553-11 with a catch % of 72.8 and 84 1st downs.
If they are going to Moneyball this, that's what they have to replace, probably with 2 draft picks and what they currently have. Watkins can get them maybe 1/3 of the way, you might get a little more from Lazard/Cobb/Amari, but I figure you still need to come up with at least 800 yards from somewhere.
As for Winfree and Taylor, those guys are PS guys who eke onto the roster because of ST. They are UDFA guys and if they were going to show anything would have by now. UDFAs like Lazard -- who is a meh WR2/ good WR3 -- making good are rare.
If you think Burks or Williams or Pickens are an upgrade from a UDFA from Ferris St., and they are available you take them.
Amari Rodgers is the ONLY receiver under contract after the season, they will absolutely be changing that.
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He is also the guy I would love to see us land. We haven't drafted "my guy" since Bulaga, so, yes, I don't expect Olave at all.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostThe name I have heard / seen go to the packers more than any one else, and it's not even close, is olave. I am 99.99% sure we will not get him because of this.
Even though I am sure we won't take 2 WR in the first the idea of getting Olave and Watson is intriguing. You get the pro ready smooth guy and the physical freak. Almost a Locket/Metcalf kind of deal. Its a good 1/2 combo for an NFL team, but not sure it works with our offense.
The guy I fully expect them to take if he is there would be Burks. Big, strong and versatile. He probably won't be taking the top off the D, but there are plenty of one trick guys who can do that for us. MiLF gets wood thinking about the creative ways to use Burks. I have no idea if he can line up in the backfield ala Deebo, but if he can, he is the perfect scheme fit. Of course I still want Ty Montgomery back, so what do I know.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Yeah, I prefer Olave to Burks, but I'm not sure Olave is there at 22 and Burks probably will be. Burks could be a monster if he's deployed correctly, and I think MLF is smart enough to do that. I don't think they take two WRs in R1. I'm not even sure they'll take one, but I expect them to at a minimum take a WR in the first 2 rounds and take a early Day 3 flier on someone like Kevin Austin or Tyquan Thornton.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostHe is also the guy I would love to see us land. We haven't drafted "my guy" since Bulaga, so, yes, I don't expect Olave at all.
Even though I am sure we won't take 2 WR in the first the idea of getting Olave and Watson is intriguing. You get the pro ready smooth guy and the physical freak. Almost a Locket/Metcalf kind of deal. Its a good 1/2 combo for an NFL team, but not sure it works with our offense.
The guy I fully expect them to take if he is there would be Burks. Big, strong and versatile. He probably won't be taking the top off the D, but there are plenty of one trick guys who can do that for us. MiLF gets wood thinking about the creative ways to use Burks. I have no idea if he can line up in the backfield ala Deebo, but if he can, he is the perfect scheme fit. Of course I still want Ty Montgomery back, so what do I know.
What about offering a R4 to JAX for Laviska Shenault? He's kinda Deebo-ish and less miles than Ty. Drafting Burks would make them redundant, although having both of them on the field at once could be fun for defenses to figure out.
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