If the Jags were interested, I'd trade a 4th for Shenault. Then, use a 2nd round pick on Pickens, Watson, or Pierce. We'd likely want to trade down from #28 or have to trade up from #53 to get one of those guys.
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I want Jahan Dotson.
Dionte Johnson, Desean Jackson and Antonio Brown are some good comps for Dotson.
Word from those who have watched him is he is smart and crafty. One thing I see immediately is that he is incredibly natural tracking the ball and plucking it from the sky. He reminds me of Jennings that way, just smooth and efficient and natural.
I have no doubt Dotson will be a player. He can really run too, and stretch the field.
Christian Watson looks clumsy going after the ball. He is not a natural. I am not sold on him.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I'd be fine with Mafe at 28. 265 pounds and 4.53, and even before the Davante thing, I was wanting an edge rusher in the first round.
Is there any serious expectation that Shenault could be gotten for a 4th round pick? I sort of doubt it.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I doubt the Packers have a poor blocking, 178lb receiver high on their board, but crazier things have happened.
Shanahan (Mike) Coaching Tree - Top 3 Leading WRs
San Francisco - Kyle Shanahan
Deebo Samuel - 6'0" 215
Brandon Aiyuk - 6'0" 200
Jauan Jennings - 6'3" 212
LA Rams - Sean McVay
Cooper Kupp - 6'2" 208
Robert Woods - 6'0" 195
Van Jefferson - 6'1" 200
Odell Beckham - 5'11" 198 (1/2 season)
Cincinnati - Zac Taylor
Ja'Marr Chase - 6'0" 201
Tee Higgins - 6'4" 215
Tyler Boyd - 6'2" 203
Green Bay - MLF
Davante Adams - 6'1" 215
Allen Lazard - 6'5" 227
MVS - 6'4" 206"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Do you think that is by design??Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI doubt the Packers have a poor blocking, 178lb receiver high on their board, but crazier things have happened.
Shanahan (Mike) Coaching Tree - Top 3 Leading WRs
San Francisco - Kyle Shanahan
Deebo Samuel - 6'0" 215
Brandon Aiyuk - 6'0" 200
Jauan Jennings - 6'3" 212
LA Rams - Sean McVay
Cooper Kupp - 6'2" 208
Robert Woods - 6'0" 195
Van Jefferson - 6'1" 200
Odell Beckham - 5'11" 198 (1/2 season)
Cincinnati - Zac Taylor
Ja'Marr Chase - 6'0" 201
Tee Higgins - 6'4" 215
Tyler Boyd - 6'2" 203
Green Bay - MLF
Davante Adams - 6'1" 215
Allen Lazard - 6'5" 227
MVS - 6'4" 206
Smallest WR on each roster:
Ray ray McCloud SF, 5-9, 190
Tutu Atwell rams 5-9, 165
Trent Taylor bengals 5-8, 178
Randall Cobb 5-10, 195
I dont know that they avoid smaller guys. There are just less of them overall in the league. Your average WR is 6-1 and about 205.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Like I said previously, there is room for all shapes and sizes in the MLF offense, but with his poor size and blocking ability Dotson is a slot WR in this offense. We already have Cobb (present) and Amari (future), so I don't think it's a high priority for the Packers. I don't see Gutey giving 1st round priority to another slot WR.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostDo you think that is by design??
Smallest WR on each roster:
Ray ray McCloud SF, 5-9, 190
Tutu Atwell rams 5-9, 165
Trent Taylor bengals 5-8, 178
Randall Cobb 5-10, 195
I dont know that they avoid smaller guys. There are just less of them overall in the league. Your average WR is 6-1 and about 205."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Ray Ray is on the team as a returner. We don't know if SF will even use him as a WR--since he was with Pittsburgh last year.
Atwell is on the team as a returner. He got 10 offensive snaps in the 8 games he played last year.
Taylor also has return ability. He caught 2 passes last year."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Why arent Antonio Brown, Desean Jackson, Dionte Johnson, Brandin Cooks or Emmanuel Sanders slot receivers. Not all 5-11, 180 pound receivers are slot receivers.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostLike I said previously, there is room for all shapes and sizes in the MLF offense, but with his poor size and blocking ability Dotson is a slot WR in this offense. We already have Cobb (present) and Amari (future), so I don't think it's a high priority for the Packers. I don't see Gutey giving 1st round priority to another slot WR.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Some smaller WRs can play outside because they can beat press. Dotson isn't good against press. Skyy Moore (and Calvin Austin) were two smaller guys who are able to beat press. Also, MLF values WRs that can block. Some smaller guys can block. Randall Cobb is an example. Dotson isn't a good blocker. Different schemes ask for different skills.
WRs against press coverage during their college career (per PFF's Ben Linsey):
1) Drake London
2) Justyn Ross
3) George Pickens
4) Skyy Moore
5) Christian Watson
6) Garrett Wilson
7) Chris Olave
8) Alec Pierce
9) Jalen Tolbert
10) Jahan Dotson
11) Jameson Williams
Note: Treylon Burks isn't on the list because he didn't face press enough to qualify in Linsey's chart. Calvin Austin wasn't included, but I liked how he beat press at the Senior Bowl, and he played almost exclusively at outside WR in college.
I like Dotson. In the right offense I think he can be similar to Tyler Lockett. I just think you'll be disappointed if you are hoping for the Packers to draft Dotson.Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 04-16-2022, 09:02 PM."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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When I watched his film, I gave him an "Average" grade against press. Statistically, he's not very good against press. See above.Originally posted by RashanGary View Posthttps://www.google.com/amp/s/syndica...te-wr.amp.html
This article says hes good against press. Says hes hard to get hands on and uses his quickness to win at the line
Play strength issues show up against clingy coverage.
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His tiny frame will leave him susceptible against bigger, more physical corners. Faster than he is quick.
Dotson might have to be protected from press-man coverage at the NFL level, at least early on, but he should be very dangerous when teams scheme him a free release.
NFL defenders may be able to knock him off his route because of his slight frame.
May have an issue transitioning to the pros - he's 5-foot-11 and goes 184-pound and will likely get pressed more frequently in the NFL than at the college level."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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