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  • Waddle is not top 10. You’re missing Tyreek Hill and Stefon Diggs, among others. McLaurin wasn’t a 1st round pick.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • [QUOTE=HarveyWallbangers;1114198]Waddle is not top 10.


      Hill and Diggs horrible misses. Probably Hopkins too. Didn’t waddle have over 100 catches with a crap qb though ?
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • OOPS

        It slipped my mind that we picked SuperStar TE Jay Sternberger in front of Terry

        NO NEED TO SAY IT WAS ROUND 3
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • [QUOTE=Bretsky;1114199]
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          Waddle is not top 10.


          Hill and Diggs horrible misses. Probably Hopkins too. Didn’t waddle have over 100 catches with a crap qb though ?
          He averaged under 10 yards/reception, so I'm not impesseed. Very Jarvis Landry-esque.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            Hill and Diggs horrible misses. Probably Hopkins too.
            Two 5th round picks and a 1st round pick. Some others:

            Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks = 1st round
            Michael Pittman = 2nd round
            Keenan Allen, Chris Godwin, Tyler Lockett = 3rd round
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              What stat are you using for this ? When I think of the top 10 WR's in the NFL

              Adams 2nd round
              Copp 3rd round
              Chase 1st
              Jefferson 1st
              Waddle 1st (I think I'd consider him top 10)
              Lamb 1st
              Samueal 2nd I think
              Metcalf 2nd
              AJ Brown 2nd
              McLaurin 1st



              I'm sure I'm missing some; I just did this off the top of my head for the list
              I used receiving yards from 2021.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • Man, when is this damn draft going to happen? Feels like the NFL drags it out longer and longer every year, to try to stay in the news and getting clicks.

                Just draft some people and let's all wait our three years to see if they pan out.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  Man, when is this damn draft going to happen? Feels like the NFL drags it out longer and longer every year, to try to stay in the news and getting clicks.

                  Just draft some people and let's all wait our three years to see if they pan out.
                  It's normally the last weekend of April. This year with the last Thursday being the 28th, it's as late as it can possibly be.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    Waddle is not top 10. You’re missing Tyreek Hill and Stefon Diggs, among others. McLaurin wasn’t a 1st round pick.
                    Bretsky, when you look at it, the later round receivers really pan out. Almost as often as the first rounders, and often times better than the first rounders.

                    This years draft is no different. Dotson, Watson, Metchie and Tolbert could all out perform the first round. Im more than ok getting our guy in the second. Even if we have to trade up. Those two first round picks cant be wasted. Grab BPA and then go get your guy in the second.
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                    • Top 10 receiving yards leaders

                      Cooper Kupp
                      Round 3 Pick 5
                      6'2" 204
                      4.62 40
                      31 vert
                      6.75 3 cone
                      4.08 shuttle

                      Justin Jefferson
                      Round 1 Pick 22
                      6'1" 202
                      4.43 40
                      37.5 vert

                      Davante Adams
                      Round 2 Pick 21
                      6'1" 212
                      4.56 40
                      39.5 vert
                      6.82 3 cone
                      4.3 shuttle

                      Ja'Marr Chase (pro day)
                      Round 1 Pick 5
                      6'0" 200
                      4.38 40
                      41" vert
                      7.0 3 cone
                      3.98 shuttle

                      Deebo Samuel
                      Round 2 Pick 4
                      5'11" 214
                      4.48 40
                      39" vert
                      7.03 3 cone
                      4.14 shuttle

                      Tyreek Hill (pro day)
                      Round 5 Pick 26
                      5'10" 185
                      4.29 40
                      40.5" vert
                      6.53 3 cone
                      4.06 shuttle

                      Stefon Diggs
                      Round 5 Pick 10
                      6'0"195
                      4.46 40
                      35" vert
                      7.03 3 cone
                      4.32 shuttle

                      Tyler Lockett
                      Round 3 Pick 5
                      5'10"182
                      4.40 40
                      35.5 vert
                      6.89 3 cone
                      4.07 shuttle

                      Diontae Johnson
                      Round 3 Pick 2
                      5'10" 183
                      4.53 40
                      33.5 vert
                      7.09 3-cone
                      4.45 shuttle


                      DJ Moore
                      Round 1 Pick 24
                      6'0" 210
                      4.42 40
                      39.5" vert
                      6.95 3 cone
                      4.07 shuttle

                      4 out of the top 10 were picked before pick 5 in the second round.
                      4 out of the top 10 were picked between round 2 pick 21 and round 3 pick 5
                      2 were picked in the 5th round

                      So you're about as likely to land one in the second to early third as you are from the first to early second.

                      Odds are if we're going to find one it's going to be before pick 6 in the 3rd round. Could easily move up in the second to find our guy or even sit tight.



                      Mike Williams

                      Keenan Allen

                      Chris Godwin

                      CeeDee Lamb

                      Tee Higgins

                      Michael Pittman

                      Darnell Mooney

                      Terry McClaurin

                      Hunter Renfrow

                      Brandin Cooks

                      Mike Evans

                      Jaylen Waddle

                      Marquise Brown

                      Christian Kirk

                      DK Metcalf
                      Last edited by RashanGary; 04-20-2022, 05:41 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        Top 10 receiving yards leaders

                        Cooper Kupp
                        Round 3 Pick 5
                        6'2" 204
                        4.62 40
                        31 vert
                        6.75 3 cone
                        4.08 shuttle

                        Justin Jefferson
                        Round 1 Pick 22
                        6'1" 202
                        4.43 40
                        37.5 vert

                        Davante Adams
                        Round 2 Pick 21
                        6'1" 212
                        4.56 40
                        39.5 vert
                        6.82 3 cone
                        4.3 shuttle

                        Ja'Marr Chase (pro day)
                        Round 1 Pick 5
                        6'0" 200
                        4.38 40
                        41" vert
                        7.0 3 cone
                        3.98 shuttle

                        Deebo Samuel
                        Round 2 Pick 4
                        5'11" 214
                        4.48 40
                        39" vert
                        7.03 3 cone
                        4.14 shuttle

                        Tyreek Hill (pro day)
                        Round 5 Pick 26
                        5'10" 185
                        4.29 40
                        40.5" vert
                        6.53 3 cone
                        4.06 shuttle

                        Stefon Diggs
                        Round 5 Pick 10
                        6'0"195
                        4.46 40
                        35" vert
                        7.03 3 cone
                        4.32 shuttle

                        Tyler Lockett
                        Round 3 Pick 5
                        5'10"182
                        4.40 40
                        35.5 vert
                        6.89 3 cone
                        4.07 shuttle

                        Diontae Johnson
                        Round 3 Pick 2
                        5'10" 183
                        4.53 40
                        33.5 vert
                        7.09 3-cone
                        4.45 shuttle


                        DJ Moore
                        Round 1 Pick 24
                        6'0" 210
                        4.42 40
                        39.5" vert
                        6.95 3 cone
                        4.07 shuttle

                        4 out of the top 10 were picked before pick 5 in the second round.
                        4 out of the top 10 were picked between round 2 pick 21 and round 3 pick 5
                        2 were picked in the 5th round

                        So you're about as likely to land one in the second to early third as you are from the first to early second.

                        Odds are if we're going to find one it's going to be before pick 6 in the 3rd round. Could easily move up in the second to find our guy or even sit tight.



                        Mike Williams

                        Keenan Allen

                        Chris Godwin

                        CeeDee Lamb

                        Tee Higgins

                        Michael Pittman

                        Darnell Mooney

                        Terry McClaurin

                        Hunter Renfrow

                        Brandin Cooks

                        Mike Evans

                        Jaylen Waddle

                        Marquise Brown

                        Christian Kirk

                        DK Metcalf

                        GREAT DATA

                        I absolutely do NOT want them to trade up. I would welcome a trade down and with it a selection of Dotson, Watson, or Moore.

                        I wonder if we could somehow maneuver #28 and our 3rd round pick and end up with two 2nds out of those ?
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          Bretsky, when you look at it, the later round receivers really pan out. Almost as often as the first rounders, and often times better than the first rounders.

                          This years draft is no different. Dotson, Watson, Metchie and Tolbert could all out perform the first round. Im more than ok getting our guy in the second. Even if we have to trade up. Those two first round picks cant be wasted. Grab BPA and then go get your guy in the second.


                          Wants to pound table for not our guy, but our "2" guys

                          We've ignored this position long enough !

                          And I'd add a late round upside flyer in addition to the 2 high picks.

                          LET"S SET HIS TEAM UP FOR GRAHAM MERTZ after GB ditched LOVE and drafts him in two years ))))))))))))))))
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • Top 10 receiving yards leaders

                            Cooper Kupp
                            Round 3 Pick 5
                            6'2" 204
                            4.62 40
                            31 vert
                            6.75 3 cone
                            4.08 shuttle

                            Justin Jefferson
                            Round 1 Pick 22
                            6'1" 202
                            4.43 40
                            37.5 vert

                            Davante Adams
                            Round 2 Pick 21
                            6'1" 212
                            4.56 40
                            39.5 vert
                            6.82 3 cone
                            4.3 shuttle

                            Ja'Marr Chase (pro day)
                            Round 1 Pick 5
                            6'0" 200
                            4.38 40
                            41" vert
                            7.0 3 cone
                            3.98 shuttle

                            Deebo Samuel
                            Round 2 Pick 4
                            5'11" 214
                            4.48 40
                            39" vert
                            7.03 3 cone
                            4.14 shuttle

                            Tyreek Hill (pro day)
                            Round 5 Pick 26
                            5'10" 185
                            4.29 40
                            40.5" vert
                            6.53 3 cone
                            4.06 shuttle

                            Stefon Diggs
                            Round 5 Pick 10
                            6'0"195
                            4.46 40
                            35" vert
                            7.03 3 cone
                            4.32 shuttle

                            Tyler Lockett
                            Round 3 Pick 5
                            5'10"182
                            4.40 40
                            35.5 vert
                            6.89 3 cone
                            4.07 shuttle

                            Diontae Johnson
                            Round 3 Pick 2
                            5'10" 183
                            4.53 40
                            33.5 vert
                            7.09 3-cone
                            4.45 shuttle


                            DJ Moore
                            Round 1 Pick 24
                            6'0" 210
                            4.42 40
                            39.5" vert
                            6.95 3 cone
                            4.07 shuttle

                            4 out of the top 10 were picked before pick 5 in the second round.
                            4 out of the top 10 were picked between round 2 pick 21 and round 3 pick 5
                            2 were picked in the 5th round

                            So you're about as likely to land one in the second to early third as you are from the first to early second.

                            Odds are if we're going to find one it's going to be before pick 6 in the 3rd round. Could easily move up in the second to find our guy or even sit tight.




                            Players 10-20 I'm going to include a couple injured players. AJ Brown, Allen Robinson, DeAndre Hopkins and Calvin Ridley

                            AJ Brown
                            Round 2 Pick 19
                            6'0" 226
                            4.49 40
                            36.5 vert

                            Allen Robinson
                            Round 2 Pick 29
                            6'2" 220
                            4.60 40
                            39" vert
                            7.00 3 cone
                            4.00 shuttle

                            DeAndre Hopkins
                            Round 1 Pick 27
                            6'1" 214
                            4.57 40
                            36" vert
                            4.5 shuttle

                            Calvin Ridley
                            Round 1 Pick 26
                            6'1" 189
                            4.43 40
                            31" vert
                            6.88 3 cone
                            4.41 shuttle

                            Mike Williams (pro day)
                            Round 1 Pick 7
                            6'4" 218
                            4.54 40
                            32.5" vert

                            Keenan Allen
                            Round 3 Pick 12
                            6'2" 206

                            Chris Godwin
                            Round 3 Pick 20
                            6'1" 209
                            4.42 40
                            36" vert
                            7.01 3 cone
                            4.00 shuttle

                            CeeDee Lamb
                            Round 1 Pick 17
                            6'2" 198
                            4.50 40
                            34.5" vert

                            Tee Higgins (pro day)
                            Round 2 Pick 1
                            6'4" 216
                            4.59 40
                            31" vert
                            4.53 shuttle

                            Michael Pittman
                            Round 2 Pick 2
                            6'4" 223
                            4.52 40
                            36.5" vert
                            6.96 3 cone
                            4.14 shuttle

                            So 10 of the top 20 were taken before pick 6 in the 2nd round.
                            8 of 20 were taking between pick 6 in the 2nd round through the end of the third round
                            2 were taken in the 5th round

                            You're still looking at about equal likelihood in the 2nd and 3rd rounds as the first and early second.


                            Darnell Mooney

                            Terry McClaurin

                            Hunter Renfrow

                            Brandin Cooks

                            Mike Evans

                            Jaylen Waddle

                            Marquise Brown

                            Christian Kirk

                            DK Metcalf
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                            • It looks like the likelihood of drafting a good receiver drops way off after round 3.

                              Round 1 through pick 5 of round 2 gets the best results.
                              Rounds 2 - 3 get good results
                              After round 3 you're very unlikely to hit
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                              • 14 of 20 were over 200 pounds.
                                4 of 20 were under 190 pounds.
                                7 of 20 were 214 pounds or heavier

                                You're more likely to find big guys than small guys. But 195-213 is the sweet spot.

                                the slowest time is 4.62
                                15 of 20 ran 4.56 or better
                                9 of 20 ran 4.49 or better
                                6 of 20 ran 4.43 or better

                                Other than Dionte Johnson who is an outlier, bigger guys can run in the mid to upper 4.5s and still be very successful. Smaller guys who succeed tend to be fast.
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