Official Fire Bisaccia Thread

[Fritz]

I hope Guter will continue to invest in ST players. I'd like to see them field a consistent and above-average ST unit this year.

Also sounds like Guter things Crosby can still kick - he seemed to blame the lack of leg strength on some injuries last year. So maybe he'll be back after all.

[bobblehead]

I hope Guter will continue to invest in ST players. I'd like to see them field a consistent and above-average ST unit this year.

Also sounds like Guter things Crosby can still kick - he seemed to blame the lack of leg strength on some injuries last year. So maybe he'll be back after all.

There have been a lot of kickers who kicked into their 40's with weak legs simply because they were money from -45. If Crosby comes back cheap I won't be upset at all.

[Joemailman]

In Rick Gosselin special teams rankings Packers fall to 29th, after finishing 22nd in 2022. They were 32nd in 2021 https://rickgosselin.com/the-2023-nf...eams-rankings/

Don't have all the breakdowns yet, but they were the most penalized ST unit with 19 for 178 yards.

Edit:

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...source=twitter

It’s nothing short of a disappointing finish for a perpetually dysfunctional special teams group now led by one of the NFL’s highest paid coordinators. The Packers had several veterans on special teams — including several hand-picked by Bisaccia — and still struggled.

Overall, the Packers committed an NFL-high 19 accepted penalties on special teams. The league average was 11.

Rookie kicker Anders Carlson ranked 24th in the NFL in field goal percentage and missed an NFL-high five extra points. Punter Daniel Whelan ranked 24th punting average, 29th in net punting and 26th in percentage of punts inside the 20-yard line.

The Packers covered kickoffs fine and got more production out of kick returner Keisean Nixon, but Nixon and Samori Toure both lost fumbles on punt returns. Bisaccia’s group also gave up a punt return for a touchdown in Week 3. Far too often, Nixon took the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs and was stopped short of the 25-yard line, which inflated his return yardage but hurt field position.

The Packers also ranked 29th in punt return average and 26th in opponent punt return average.

Green Bay did rank in the top 10 in average starting field position.

The Dallas Cowboys, who

[run pMc]

Not surprised. They had a lot of penalties - especially early in the season, and Anders has missed a league high 5 XP. I think they are fairly well coached, but the execution is good enough. MLF will give him another year, and Barry draws all the fans' ire anyway.

Next year he could be on the hot seat if the ST doesn't improve. You have to think there's a culture problem with ST and it's a headwind, makes me wonder what it will take to ever have top 10 ST (making all your kicks? a couple of TD returns?)

[bobblehead]

"Far too often, Nixon took the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs and was stopped short of the 25-yard line, which inflated his return yardage but hurt field position."

My gameday crew screamed at Nixon for this all season long. And then on rare occasions when he got to the 40 we had a flag and started at the 10. Nixon can walk in the offseason as the NFL has decided that KR isn't something they want anymore. Reed can handle the PR duties.

[Freak Out]

It's time.

[Fritz]

It's time.

Good thread resurrection, Freak!

We keep cycling through kickers now and the magic of Bitchsaccia is not rubbing off on his kickers. Warm Carlson did not get better under "Bitch" and Turd Narveson seems to be regressing.

"They haven't been terrible on special teams" does not seem enough to justify this guy's salary and position.

But the punter is awesome!

Hell, I don't know. I just know they've invested a LOT of resources and roster spots on ST guys, and they're, at best, middling. If you don't include the putrid placekicking.

[bobblehead]

There have been a lot of kickers who kicked into their 40's with weak legs simply because they were money from -45. If Crosby comes back cheap I won't be upset at all.

With over a year to reflect on my post I stand by it 100%

[Freak Out]

Special teams are a mess. No reason not to kick the tires on Crosby. Narv is the only kicker in the NFL to miss a kick under 40 yards this year. Boot him. WTF was that onside kick again?

[Fritz]

Special teams are a mess. No reason not to kick the tires on Crosby. Narv is the only kicker in the NFL to miss a kick under 40 yards this year. Boot him. WTF was that onside kick again?

Uh, if the Packers try to boot him, they'd probably miss.

[King Friday]

So fucking bad. Bitch Sac is stealing from the team. Should return at least 75% of his salary due to gross incompetence.

[ThunderDan]

I can’t see us keeping him after this year.

Special teams were horrible today and all year.

[Fritz]

Kick him in the Bitch Sac!

Man, ST was bad today, outside of Whelan and McGrindus. Does Bitch Sac not talk to these guys about when to field or not field a punt?

[run pMc]

Keisean is a risk taker and not an exemplar of ball security. He should have fair caught the ball or yelled out to steer clear.

Reed also lost track of where he was and should've let that punt go.

But hey they might have a kicker; they definitely have a punter.

[bobblehead]

And the punter has proven to be a great holder as well.