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  • #46
    Well?
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #47
      We all knew it was only a matter of time. Packers fans don't get nice things like good ST.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #48
        Damn Italians. Always fucking shit up.
        I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
        I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
          Damn Italians. Always fucking shit up.
          Your mom’s name is ‘shitup’?
          The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
          Vince Lombardi

          "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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          • #50
            Defense is more to blame than special teams for this loss, err, tie, but I reckon - and I ain't a physicist - that blocked EP-2 annihilated momentum, space, time and matter.
            I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
            I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
              Your mom’s name is ‘shitup’?
              I mean, look at history. The Italians, especially the Romans, have been fucking shit up for eons. Italian chicks are attractive, though.

              Ricky B just ain't getting shit done, I reckon. His units are costing the team games left and right.
              I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
              I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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              • #52
                I’m down for answers. The FG/PT blocking, KR coverage and probably punt return all need a lot of work.
                The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                Vince Lombardi

                "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                • #53
                  Outside of one year of Bonamego with, I think, Mike Sherman, the Packers special teams are proof that draft and develop even with occasional big ticket FA signing is anathema to ST success. And Sherman was something of an anomaly compared to Packer coaches since. Those teams were about as old as Packer teams have been since the first Harlan-Wolf-Holmgren Super Bowl year. And before Tank starts up, I will remind him that he's the only past coach named Mike that didn't even reach a Super Bowl.

                  Even hiring a couple of RB's favorites from the Raiders can't save them the yutes' mistakes.

                  If you doubt its not the coach but the organization, think back to all the previous coordinators that Fritz and I have (jokingly) threatened to kidnap to prevent their malfeasance. I am not one to believe a lot of football results are tied to organizational history, but the ST on the Packers defies any other explanation.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    There's an outbreak of kick blocks recently around the league - unfortunately not including the Packers on the good side of that.

                    Kick coverage in the new kickoff system should be easier. Bisaccia's guys, however, lost contain on the last two, thankfully with a penalty on one of them. That oughta be teachable and get taught.

                    Not catching it on the fly when the kicker drops it in that drop zone is sorta inexcusable. It costs 15 yards.

                    Two questions for the facts/rules oriented: Is having the ball place-kicked/off the ground required? Or could a team use the punter if they wanted too like on a safety? AND Is it possible within the rules to kick it super high and down to maybe the 15 to 25 yard line, then have the kicking team race down and recover like a de-facto onside kick?
                    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Outside of one year of Bonamego with, I think, Mike Sherman, the Packers special teams are proof that draft and develop even with occasional big ticket FA signing is anathema to ST success. And Sherman was something of an anomaly compared to Packer coaches since. Those teams were about as old as Packer teams have been since the first Harlan-Wolf-Holmgren Super Bowl year. And before Tank starts up, I will remind him that he's the only past coach named Mike that didn't even reach a Super Bowl.

                      Even hiring a couple of RB's favorites from the Raiders can't save them the yutes' mistakes.

                      If you doubt it’s not the coach but the organization, think back to all the previous coordinators that Fritz and I have (jokingly) threatened to kidnap to prevent their malfeasance. I am not one to believe a lot of football results are tied to organizational history, but the ST on the Packers defies any other explanation.
                      Holy shit, the Prodigal Son returns.

                      No seriously, welcome back, PB. We miss ya, especially the Mailman. Dude has to do everything around here without you.
                      I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
                      I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        Holy shit, the Prodigal Son returns.

                        No seriously, welcome back, PB. We miss ya, especially the Mailman. Dude has to do everything around here without you.
                        Thank you. Don't have the time to post as once I did. But I still read the celebration or panic each week after the game.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #57
                          PB, I'm so glad you're back! But who is that avatar? Mickey Dolenz from The Monkees is what I keep seeing there.

                          Bisacccia was supposedly a very well respected ST guy before he came to Green Bay. Did the water here fuck him up? Did he suffer a head injury?

                          The last good ST coach I can recall was Nolan Cromwell, who coached the Super Bowl ST, I think. That was a hell of a long time ago.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            PB, I'm so glad you're back! But who is that avatar? Mickey Dolenz from The Monkees is what I keep seeing there.

                            Bisacccia was supposedly a very well respected ST guy before he came to Green Bay. Did the water here fuck him up? Did he suffer a head injury?

                            The last good ST coach I can recall was Nolan Cromwell, who coached the Super Bowl ST, I think. That was a hell of a long time ago.
                            I wonder if it's an organizational thing with the Packers ST. The coaches change but the results don't change. I wonder how much they work on ST once the season starts. Practices are closed to the press once preseason is over, so we don't know.

                            PB's avatar is a young Belichick.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              I wonder if it's an organizational thing with the Packers ST. The coaches change but the results don't change. I wonder how much they work on ST once the season starts. Practices are closed to the press once preseason is over, so we don't know.
                              Listening to Nagler and Mosqueda will give you an idea of what Bisaccia has to deal with.

                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                Listening to Nagler and Mosqueda will give you an idea of what Bisaccia has to deal with.

                                FIRE SOMEBODY!

                                This was an illuminating listen.

                                But the argument that the Packers don’t pay coaches doesn’t apply here. Bisaccia is highly paid.

                                I thought Bissaccia had a lot of say in the roster, and so I’d say he’s got more to work with than previous ST coaches.

                                But it’s interesting to think that The Flower is maybe the issue anyway. Still, shouldn’t Musgrave know or be coached to work inside out? Isn’t THAT on Bitch-Sac?
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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