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  • And even if he turned over and his dick was out…. Sure it suggests that he wants a handy. But they don’t have to do it and it’s not all that traumatic. It’s just a penis. He shouldn’t have done it and it’s messed up, but it’s not as bad as they’re making it out. I think the suspension is spot on and the fine.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
      Watson and Roethlisberger are true testaments to the power of the frogskin wiping away would-be convictions.
      Watson is a testament of the power of frogskins to get women to give you a handjob during a massage session. I imagine he totally is a creep who made more than one woman uncomfortable, but bottom line...he never hit anyone. He never raped anyone. He isn't Ben. He isn't ray rice. What he was doing is wrong, but in the spirit of what the NFL gave a lot of bad dudes for punishment, Desean got a raw deal.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        Watson is a testament of the power of frogskins to get women to give you a handjob during a massage session. I imagine he totally is a creep who made more than one woman uncomfortable, but bottom line...he never hit anyone. He never raped anyone. He isn't Ben. He isn't ray rice. What he was doing is wrong, but in the spirit of what the NFL gave a lot of bad dudes for punishment, Desean got a raw deal.
        You're kind of missing a key point in saying this punishment is inconsistent with the past. The NFL changed their procedures for how to handle cases like this because of the criticism they've received for the way they handled situations like Ray Rice. This was the first time that the new procedure has been used. The procedure, which was negotiated with the NFLPA, is designed to create a new normal on how these situations are handled.
        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • The complaints filed against Watson were a little bit more than "his dick was out". Would you really want your sister, daughter, mother dealing with that guy and his antics?

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          • Kinda like the new setup. Of course as soon as it fucks us, I'll be regretting that.

            I always thought the appeal process was ridiculous. Imagine if Ruggs didn't get 10+ years in prison for killing that woman in the fiery crash...

            He gets a yearlong suspension or some bullshit and then appeals it. Upon further review? Lifetime ban. But this is why I'm not judge material. I'm heavyhanded with both reward and punishment.

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              You're kind of missing a key point in saying this punishment is inconsistent with the past. The NFL changed their procedures for how to handle cases like this because of the criticism they've received for the way they handled situations like Ray Rice. This was the first time that the new procedure has been used. The procedure, which was negotiated with the NFLPA, is designed to create a new normal on how these situations are handled.
              Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I hadn't heard anything about it to be honest. I'll have to do a bit of research. If this is true I would think the next guy who actually HITS a woman, or is ACCUSED of rape by a woman will miss at least 16 games.

              Edit: So I read up on the new agreement from 2020. The only real difference is the "disciplinary officer" appointed by both parties. If that person says "yes, you did something and should be punished" it really doesn't matter what s/he recomments. Goodell has final say....just like before.

              So, were Roger might have declared he will be tougher on guys than he was in the past, it was always his decision then and now. He handed out the soft penalties of the past, and he hands the penalties out now. The only exception would be if the officer says "no violation occurred". In that sole case Roger can't do squat.
              Last edited by bobblehead; 08-21-2022, 01:37 PM.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                The complaints filed against Watson were a little bit more than "his dick was out". Would you really want your sister, daughter, mother dealing with that guy and his antics?
                Pretty sure my sister has dealth with mens antics quite a bit in her life. As has my wife. I count on them to be strong and tell men to fuck off. They seem to do it well without getting 6 figure settlements (which I'm not necessarily against).
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • And let me be clear. I don't like Watson, and being a creep with massage girls is illegal. I don't mind that he got 11 games or whatever it was. I just fully expect to see in the future, when Ray Lewis or Pacman is involved in a mega violent situation, or when a guy smacks his girl with a right hook and breaks her jaw, just maybe they get more than Desean did....and maybe even more than Calvin Ridley got for making a few bets.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • Yeah, the Ridley suspension is crazy IMO.

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                    • Rashan, if he asked for a "handy" in Germany they'd try to sell him a cell phone.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        Pretty sure my sister has dealth with mens antics quite a bit in her life. As has my wife. I count on them to be strong and tell men to fuck off. They seem to do it well without getting 6 figure settlements (which I'm not necessarily against).
                        Most dude's aren't 6'2" and 220 lbs of pure muscle though. The power dynamics are something else. I am sure a lot of the girls were happy to go a long and are in it for the money but I am sure many of them felt they had to comply.

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                        • Feelings are like assholes. Everyone has them and they don't really factor into things, except (horse)shit.

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                          • I'd say Aaron Rodgers's feelings factored into a lot of what the Packers have done this past offseason or two...

                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • Aaron ia responsible for his own feelings. The Packers are responsible for conducting business in a responsible, respectful way. Big difference.

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                              • But I'd say his feelings impacted their decisions. Pretty directly.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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