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  • Davante vs. Rookies

    Thread to compare the production.
    My expectations are that Adams will outperform both combined this year, APRH.

  • #2
    Week 1 (9/11/2022)
    D. Adams - 10 Rec, 17 Tgt, 141 Yds, 1 TD

    C.Watson - 2 Rec, 4 Tgt, 34 Yds
    R.Doubs - 4 Rec, 5 Tgt, 37 Yds

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    • #3
      it won't either be close.

      Let's call a spade a spade.

      NOT SIGNING Devante Adams, "before" last season started (when he wanted to return back) was an Epic Fail by Gutebag. EPIC FAIL. You take care of those elite players.

      So they failed to reach an agreement, and Adams ended up getting more money than he was expecting before the season started.

      That failure further exposes Gute's other obvious fail......having a competent #2 WR. Now we need to pray for the newbies
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #4
        And yet both teams are 0 - 1

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        • #5
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          Week 1 (9/11/2022)
          D. Adams - 10 Rec, 17 Tgt, 141 Yds, 1 TD

          C.Watson - 2 Rec, 4 Tgt, 34 Yds
          R.Doubs - 4 Rec, 5 Tgt, 37 Yds
          Really? What do you expect? Adams had twice the targets as the rookies. Double the targets and you'd have a stat line pretty similar to Adams.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
            Really? What do you expect? Adams had twice the targets as the rookies. Double the targets and you'd have a stat line pretty similar to Adams.
            As stated in OP
            My expectations are that Adams will outperform both combined this year, APRH.

            Agree that if you match the targets for ANY receiver that you'll have similar stats to Adams. Tyreek Hill averaged 11.2 ypc last year, Stefon Diggs 11.9, Lazard 12.8.
            There's a reason most rookies don't get a lot of targets.
            Watson's awful 1st play drop alone would've changed the stat line significantly, and supports the previous sentence.

            And no, I'm not doing this to be a troll or a "shoulda kept Davante". I'm tracking it in part for my own interest/amusement, as well as for discussion.
            I do think the rookies will improve, especially in the 2nd half of the year -- if they stay healthy and don't hit a wall.

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            • #7
              Without trading Adams, we would not have some of De'Vondre Campball, Rasul Douglas, Robert Tonyan. Do we include them in the projections?
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                Week 1 (9/11/2022)
                D. Adams - 10 Rec, 17 Tgt, 141 Yds, 1 TD

                C.Watson - 2 Rec, 4 Tgt, 34 Yds
                R.Doubs - 4 Rec, 5 Tgt, 37 Yds
                If Watson doesn't drop that ball man thats 75 yds and a TD
                Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  it won't either be close.

                  Let's call a spade a spade.

                  NOT SIGNING Devante Adams, "before" last season started (when he wanted to return back) was an Epic Fail by Gutebag. EPIC FAIL. You take care of those elite players.

                  So they failed to reach an agreement, and Adams ended up getting more money than he was expecting before the season started.

                  That failure further exposes Gute's other obvious fail......having a competent #2 WR. Now we need to pray for the newbies
                  Bretsky, that was NOT an "epic fail." Adams did not want to be in Green Bay. He wanted to play closer to home. The Packers made the best of a bad situation an d got a lot in return. I highly doubt having Adams out there on Sunday against Minny would've changed much. Rodgers had little time to throw to anyone. Sure, Adams would've caught a lot of balls, but I don't think he would have made the difference. And he wanted out, anyway. He did. It is not an "epic fail" that GB didn't re-sign them, since he didn't want to be here and GB didn't have the cap money to do that and re-sign Alexander, Douglas, Campbell, and so on.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    Week 1 (9/11/2022)
                    D. Adams - 10 Rec, 17 Tgt, 141 Yds, 1 TD

                    C.Watson - 2 Rec, 4 Tgt, 34 Yds
                    R.Doubs - 4 Rec, 5 Tgt, 37 Yds
                    Adams did not catch a pass in his first NFL game.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Bretsky is saying they should have locked Adams up early instead of waiting till free agency.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Bretsky, that was NOT an "epic fail." Adams did not want to be in Green Bay. He wanted to play closer to home. The Packers made the best of a bad situation an d got a lot in return. I highly doubt having Adams out there on Sunday against Minny would've changed much. Rodgers had little time to throw to anyone. Sure, Adams would've caught a lot of balls, but I don't think he would have made the difference. And he wanted out, anyway. He did. It is not an "epic fail" that GB didn't re-sign them, since he didn't want to be here and GB didn't have the cap money to do that and re-sign Alexander, Douglas, Campbell, and so on.

                        OMG do you really believe this ?

                        First off Adams wanted to stay in Green Bay and was negotiating an extenstion the year "before" all of this happened but Green Bay did not offer enough. He got MUCH more.

                        They let a potential future Hall of Famer leave. EPIC FAIL.

                        And if you really watched what occured, Devante was negotiating with Green Bay after the season too. But we didn't lock him up. Reporters were talking to him throughout this.

                        Something changed; most feel the instability of Aaron Rodgers was the ultimate reason he left. He chose to go play with Carr for many many years instead of AROD for 1 or 2 more knowing the Love Machine was inadequate as a quarterback. It's very important to Adams to get into the HOF.

                        Just to say he wanted to go elsewhere, and ignore the entire data and process of his decision.....seems pretty incomplete to me

                        Epic Fail
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          Bretsky is saying they should have locked Adams up early instead of waiting till free agency.

                          They had their chance a full year before this happened and didn't close the deal.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            I wouldn’t have paid Davante that money. Smart teams don’t pay 30-year-old WRs QB money. KC and GB are smart teams. Things will get better, but Packers fans overreact just like every other fan base.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              OMG do you really believe this ?

                              First off Adams wanted to stay in Green Bay and was negotiating an extenstion the year "before" all of this happened but Green Bay did not offer enough. He got MUCH more.

                              They let a potential future Hall of Famer leave. EPIC FAIL.

                              And if you really watched what occured, Devante was negotiating with Green Bay after the season too. But we didn't lock him up. Reporters were talking to him throughout this.

                              Something changed; most feel the instability of Aaron Rodgers was the ultimate reason he left. He chose to go play with Carr for many many years instead of AROD for 1 or 2 more knowing the Love Machine was inadequate as a quarterback. It's very important to Adams to get into the HOF.

                              Just to say he wanted to go elsewhere, and ignore the entire data and process of his decision.....seems pretty incomplete to me

                              Epic Fail
                              Come on, Bretsky. No matter how much the Pack would've kowtowed to Rodgers, he was never going to play more than a couple more years. So Adams knew that before the whole free agent negotiations started, and if you are correct he wants badly to go into the HOF, then signing a long-term deal with the Pack would not get him there. He'd have another year or two of Rodgers, then an unknown. And signing a 30-year-old WR to a long term contract is just not a smart move. It's all good for that first year, maybe two, but after that it's not money well-spent. Not an "epic fail." An "epic fail' would have been letting him walk and getting only a third-round pick the year after. THAT is what an epic fail would've looked like.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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