Davante vs. Rookies

[run pMc]

I think Watkins is average to above average as a WR2. (If we assume Lazard is WR1)
Thing with Watkins is he's been hurt a lot in recent seasons, and seems like if you get hurt you'll keep getting hurt. It's a tough sport.
He's got ok speed and moves off the line. He's not a gamebreaker anymore but he is a decent vet to have for depth or in case of injury or a rookie not developing.

On that note, I've seen enough of the rookies to think they should both develop into good pros. Years 2 & 3 could be very exciting if there's a good QB throwing to them.

[bobblehead]

Watkins is more than just above average. Just isn't on the field enough

If he is so good why hasn't he done mich thru 2 games?

[Sparkey]

If he is so good why hasn't he done mich thru 2 games?

FWIW : He is on pace for 51 catches and 943 yards. Obviously the small sample size warning is required and his history of injuries will more than likely prevent him from attaining that line.

[Upnorth]

5 of his 6 catches gave been 1st downs.
It's early but he is solid, plus I know small sample size but basically on pace for 1000 yards. That's good not above average.
Might slow down but so far for production he is our #1.
I do think Watson passes him by midseason though.

[run pMc]

5 of his 6 catches gave been 1st downs.
It's early but he is solid, plus I know small sample size but basically on pace for 1000 yards. That's good not above average.
Might slow down but so far for production he is our #1.
I do think Watson passes him by midseason though.

I'm not convinced any GB WR will crack 900 yards, let alone 1000 this year. FWIW, 26 players broke 1000 yards receiving last season - 23 WRs and 3 TEs.
If by some miracle Watkins stays healthy AND approaches 1000 yards, he'd be considered a solid WR1. I don't think he's in that class at this point given his age, and recent injury/production history.

I'd love to see him step up and be a weapon for Rodgers, especially early in the season as the rookies develop, but I'm skeptical it will happen.

[bobblehead]

FWIW : He is on pace for 51 catches and 943 yards. Obviously the small sample size warning is required and his history of injuries will more than likely prevent him from attaining that line.

That seems average to slightly above average to me.

[George Cumby]

If Rodgers put a little more air under this ball, it goes for a TD. Watkins had to slow down for it.

He blew past the CB, too.

I think he's still got wheels.

Staying healthy is the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5iOx0rMZs

[George Cumby]

Well, it would seem Davante might be regretting his decision to leave GB.

As if we didn't know hiring that fuck-wit McDaniels was a bad idea.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/09/26/davante-adams-frustrated-and-angry-by-0-3-start/

[texaspackerbacker]

What I saw of the Raiders game on RedZone, either he wasn't getting open or Carr wasn't looking his way in crucial situations.

I'm thoroughly glad now that the trade happened, and I think that will only increase over the years. As for Adams regretting it, yeah, probably, in football terms anyway.

[Joemailman]

Carr is only 17-34 when targeting Adams. Seems strange you can only hit Adams 50% of the time. Last year with everybody knowing how much Rodgers wanted to go to Adams, Rodgers completed 123 of 169 for 72%.

[run pMc]

Game 3
Adams: 5 rec, 10 tgts, 36 yds, 1 TD. Oh, he had 1 rush for -4 yards

Watson DNP
Doubs: 8 rec, 8 tgts, 73yds, 1 TD

[run pMc]

Wouldn't shock me if he's not getting open as much or getting accurate throws.

Carr is a average to above average QB... top 15 but not quite top 10. He can get you regular season wins, but if he gets you to the playoffs I don't think he gets you far without a LOT of help.
If I'm a DC for an opposing team, I bracket or cloud-cover Adams and let Carr dink and dunk it to Waller & Renfrow until he screws up. (Or someone else screws up for LV.) Not a huge fan of that personally, but I know that's basically how Brandon Staley and a lot of copycats do it.

I haven't watched much of the Raiders this year, but from what I've seen they've had some crazy snakebit luck. That game vs. ARI was bonkers.

And no, I don't take Adams' comment about being 0-3 as regret at leaving GB, they seemed more directed at others on the team, like they were just expecting to win and not working for it.

[Joemailman]

Historically, Doubs’ 14 receptions, 137 yards and touchdown line over his first three games as a professional is very rare. How rare? So rare that only two players in NFL history, Steve Largent and Marques Colston, have recorded as many receptions, yards and touchdowns as Doubs in their first three games after being drafted in the fourth round or later in the draft. Largent eventually developed into a five-time All-Pro receiver and was named to the NFL’s 100th Anniversary All-Time Team as well as the Pro Football Football of Fame. Colston was never named a Pro Bowler but is enshrined in the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame and revolutionized the “big slot” position that players like the Packers’ Allen Lazard now play.

Nice company.

[Joemailman]

Well, it would seem Davante might be regretting his decision to leave GB.

As if we didn't know hiring that fuck-wit McDaniels was a bad idea.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-by-0-3-start/

I wonder how many players on that team wish they had kept Bisaccia as head coach. Glad they didn't.

[George Cumby]

I wonder how many players on that team wish they had kept Bisaccia as head coach. Glad they didn't.

As is often the case with the Raiders decision making I was flabbergasted they didn't give Bisaccia at least a one year deal.

Their loss and our gain.