Davante vs. Rookies

[run pMc]

Davante's age will slow him down, but he's kind of a unicorn because he gets open based on his releases, not his speed. If you watch some of his film it's like he's not really running a route so much as just shimmying around off the line and getting open in a zone. It's kind of weird. His hands are also pretty good. What he does is probably something that can age ok, until the quickness also goes and he works solely off of guile. I could see him putting up another 4000 yards and 35 TDs in the next 3-4 years before he retires. He did pretty well with Carr and Stidham throwing to him.


Rookie receivers rarely do more than 30-40 catches for 4-500 yards, so these guys are on or ahead of the curve.
Watson and Doubs, if they can stay healthy, have their careers in front of them and could easily top 800 yards each if not (hopefully) more next year. GB needs another receiving weapon besides those two (and the RBs); Lazard was the leading receiver but I'm not sure he's the missing piece. Maybe be a receiving TE? A younger/faster slot WR option?

[RashanGary]

Davante averaged 1,450 yards and 110 catches the last three years and hasn’t slowed down a step. If he’s healthy, and pushes his career out like some have, it’s not unreasonable to expect the following numbers.

Age 31 1300 14% drop
Age 32 1105 15% drop
Age 33 940 15% drop
Age 34 800 15% drop
Age 35 680 15% drop
Age 36 580 15% drop

That’s 5,400 yards in 6 realistic healthy seasons if he’s lucky enough to be mostly healthy and wants to push that hard. That puts him at 15,000 career yards.

He’s averaged 12 touchdowns a year for the last 7 years. Let’s say he gets half that for six years. 36 touchdowns. 223 total touchdowns. That’s 6th all time.

With a realistic 15% drop per year in receiving yards and cutting his prime touchdown rate in half, he realistically finishes top 7 in yards and top 6 in touchdowns.

He could make a case for the HOF if he’s motivated and healthy.

[RashanGary]

He could drop off a cliff at any point. His QB could suck. He could get injured. He might not want to push that deep into his career. AND he was never considered a Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss type freak that got all the attention and buzz.

He’s got a 15% chance of making the HOF by my estimation.

[RashanGary]

Donald driver got 5,400 yards and 32 touchdowns between the age of 31 and 36. So it’s very, very realistic for Davante to finish top 6 and 7 in yards and touchdowns all time.

[RashanGary]

Hey Tex, how did Davante playing mediocre without Rodgers work out for you. It was quite the opposite. Rodgers was mediocre and Adams a probowler. Tell us how our asses taste.

[Bretsky]

at this point it's an interesting debate.

WHO needed the other more to excel ?????????

It seems like Rodgers needed Devante more than he needed Rodgers

[call_me_ishmael]

Man, if Davante does become a HOFer, the four HOF-esque picks of Rodgers, Collins, Adams, and Bakhtiari put TT in legend category despite some overall really shitty drafts. The stars he hit shined bright, that's for sure.

That's like Harrison, Peyton, Edgerrin esque.

[texaspackerbacker]

Hey Tex, how did Davante playing mediocre without Rodgers work out for you. It was quite the opposite. Rodgers was mediocre and Adams a probowler. Tell us how our asses taste.

Did I say that? Admittedly, I didn't expect him to do as well as he did this year, and really he didn't do very well until late in the season when the Raiders were already pretty far down the toilet. Davante could still finish up his career strong, though. He didn't rely on speed, and that kind of receiver often plays good to an older age. I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers get him back for a reasonable amount in trade, although I don't expect that to happen. He and Rodgers for another 3-5 years would be nice.

Collins isn't in the HOF, is he? And I really don't think Bakhtiari will make it.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think Bakhtiari is a lock for HOF if he stays healthy and continues playing at the level that he has.

Collins isn't and almost certainly wouldn't have made it, but damn he was good at his high. Special, special player.

[run pMc]

Did I say that? Admittedly, I didn't expect him to do as well as he did this year, and really he didn't do very well until late in the season when the Raiders were already pretty far down the toilet. Davante could still finish up his career strong, though. He didn't rely on speed, and that kind of receiver often plays good to an older age. I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers get him back for a reasonable amount in trade, although I don't expect that to happen. He and Rodgers for another 3-5 years would be nice.

Collins isn't in the HOF, is he? And I really don't think Bakhtiari will make it.

You did. You also claimed Watson would outplay Adams this year, and that Rodgers wouldn't miss Adams or miss a beat. Your homerism was nice but clearly cracked under the weight of reality.
Adams had 10 rec on 17 tgts for 141 yards and TD in Game 1 of the season... not exactly starting slow.

Collins is not and won't be in the HOF. Bakhtiari has a shot depending on how his career ends. He made All-Pro 5 consecutive years which is a good endorsement. Effectively missing 2 years of his career hurts his chances. I don't think Adams will play with Rodgers in Green Bay again.

[texaspackerbacker]

Gee it's great having such an on task truth squad hahahaha. Arguably, if not for the injuries, Watson might have. I was wrong, though, I guess, about Rodgers not missing Adams. I still say, however, that Adams missed Rodgers more than vice versa. Davante is a HOF player, and I'd be thoroughly happy to get him back in Green Bay - preferably playing with the QB that made him a HOFer.

Bakhtiari is overrated enough that he just might be a HOFer. I kinda doubt it, though. If he is, Rodgers made that happen too. He's never been a good run blocker, and Rodgers' passing even while pressured made Bakhtiari and the line seem way better than they were.

[MadtownPacker]

Don’t forget rodgers is the reason you are the most intelligent and handsome poster on this board.

[bobblehead]

I think Bakhtiari is a lock for HOF if he stays healthy and continues playing at the level that he has.

Collins isn't and almost certainly wouldn't have made it, but damn he was good at his high. Special, special player.

If collins had continued the level he played at the year before it ended he would be mentioned with the great safeties. He was an eraser in both the run and pass game.

[RashanGary]

If collins had continued the level he played at the year before it ended he would be mentioned with the great safeties. He was an eraser in both the run and pass game.

Prime Collins, Woodson and Tramon was a nice start to the secondary

[red]

unrelated to whatever current bull shit argument you guys are having, but did you knows Davonte's wifes name is Devonne?

thats a little funny