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Studs and Duds, Bears, Part One, 2022
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Leavitt doesn't sound Italian, but yes, I really didn't think they should keep him on the team. He did good as a gunner, but a good special teams coach should be able to train and motivate just about anybody with moderate speed and athleticism for that job without wasting a roster spot on somebody who can't do anything else.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Matthew Slatar is entering his 16th season for NE, I think. Does nothing but run up and a down the field on special teams. Takes pride in his art and sets the to tone for everyone else. Sometimes it is not a bad idea to keep so-called special teams ace solely for special teams.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostLeavitt doesn't sound Italian, but yes, I really didn't think they should keep him on the team. He did good as a gunner, but a good special teams coach should be able to train and motivate just about anybody with moderate speed and athleticism for that job without wasting a roster spot on somebody who can't do anything else.
Packers STs have been an abomination since they refused to bring back ace Jeff Janis.
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Steve Tasker of the '90's Bills was another who made a career of 'Teams.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostMatthew Slatar is entering his 16th season for NE, I think. Does nothing but run up and a down the field on special teams. Takes pride in his art and sets the to tone for everyone else. Sometimes it is not a bad idea to keep so-called special teams ace solely for special teams.
Packers STs have been an abomination since they refused to bring back ace Jeff Janis.
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Janis, of course, was a WR - a very decent one IMO, even though a lot of people thought otherwise. Tasker, as I vaguely recall, was a WR who did a lot more than just run down as a gunner. Slatar is a name I'm not familiar with. It's a choice to make whether not to commit a roster spot for somebody like him as you describe him or Leavitt. If I was the one with that choice, I wouldn't keep somebody like that on the roster.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Agreed Brestsky, I'd say Amon-Ra is a far better receiver than his older brother, though Equanimity didn't play too badly for da Bears on Sunday.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostBoy I'm sure we didn't draft the next WR taken after Amari; he's right up the road from you Fritz"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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2x I saw a bear OL piggy back riding Clark, so I think your perception was in fact reality.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostStud, Gary. Him and Preston are looking. Great so far.
Not a stud or dud but was Clark being held a lot of was it just me.
Dudish: Campbell. Maybe my expectations are too high this seasonThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Guys like him being kept over a better S prospect make a difference. For years that spot would have went to someone who was a better prospect on defense.Originally posted by RashanGary View Post#6 is a stud on special teams. That guy is unblockable and fierce. I said a couple times, “who the hell is #6” and eventually looked it up. Leavitt is a difference maker on STsThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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That Was the McCarthy view as well. You would think he (and you) would have learned after a decade of failure that its wrong. But fat mike (and you) are not ones to admit when you are wrong.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostLeavitt doesn't sound Italian, but yes, I really didn't think they should keep him on the team. He did good as a gunner, but a good special teams coach should be able to train and motivate just about anybody with moderate speed and athleticism for that job without wasting a roster spot on somebody who can't do anything else.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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So what are the numbers Tex?
You just state that you are the winner in the argument without presenting any analysis on how teams do or don't fill the last spot or spots with special teams aces.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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LOLOriginally posted by ThunderDan View PostSo what are the numbers Tex?
You just state that you are the winner in the argument without presenting any analysis on how teams do or don't fill the last spot or spots with special teams aces.
I'll give tex the benefit of the doubt that he won't insist you do the same research he could do himself, and then insult your research methods or just call media or statisticians idiots.
Off the top of my head, Matthew Slater sees basically no time playing WR for NE, but he's been a mainstay for them and actually voted to the Pro Bowl. SD did it with Kaseem Osgood for years. Rudy Ford was in that mold for the Jags until last year when he also got some D snaps. Leavitt and Nixon were like that for LV before Bisaccia recruited them to GB. I'd expect Harbaugh (BAL) and Campbell (DET) have players in these roles, given their backgrounds as ST coaches. It's not uncommon.
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You are clearly wrong, all the top teams do it my way. I rest my case.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostHow many top teams do it the way you apparently like, and how many do it what you call McCarthy's (and my) way? I rest my case.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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All of the top teams ypu say, well that settles it.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostYou are clearly wrong, all the top teams do it my way. I rest my case.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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