Avenues to get better?

[RashanGary]

I just listened to Lafleur. He did say he wants to get more touches for Jones and Dillon. But he also said when they see those looks they want to pass. The problem with passing is that they don’t have good protection and they don’t have good receivers.

I think they should lean more into the run. It’s the strength of the offense. Even against tough looks, I like Jones chances better than Lazard, Cobb or Doubs.

But they’re not going to. They’re going to keep pushing this passing game and they’re going to keep being disappointed. They don’t have the horses for a reliable passing attack.

[King Friday]

The Packers have to trust the run. Aaron Jones has to touch the ball 20 times every week. 15 carries, 5 receptions. Need more from the TEs. The run is going to have to set up the pass for this team until there is more consistent play at receiver.

[Joemailman]

Matt Schneidman

Aaron Jones ranks first among all NFL RBs with 6.39 yards per carry.

He ranks tied for 19th in rushing attempts with 61.

MLF morphing into McCarthy?

[smuggler]

I'd go back three years and not let MLF force Pettine to move from the booth to the field and then not overreact and fire Pettine for Kevin King being a dumbass in an NFC Championship game where we intercepted Tom Brady 3 times in the second half.

Failing that, I'd force him to hire someone good at defensive coordinator instead of his buddy/sycophant Joe Berry.

Fully support a DC change in the off-season, regardless of how this year plays out.

[Bretsky]

[QUOTE=RashanGary;1121556]I just listened to Lafleur. He did say he wants to get more touches for Jones and Dillon. But he also said when they see those looks they want to pass. The problem with passing is that they don

[Bretsky]

I am disappointed in Matt LaFleur. I think it's the first time I've stated that formally.

He's not using his top two players on offense besides Sharon. It's not rocket science. I don't care what the Giants show you; you are in charge for the tempo.

And how he's treating the defense....another big strike against him

[Bretsky]

I just saw a LaFleur interview with Larry McCarren where LaFleur seemed to be saying he made the calls. He always has sort of a "buck stops hee" attitude, though, so I'd say it's still a question mark.

LaFleur calls in two play options; and AROD has the full capacity to choose which one. I fear he's lost control of AROD. I fear AROD's attitude is not good and I fear AROD is going to continue to check out of plays to pass downfield and each time GB loses, we'll have the same reaction. Where TF were AJ and AJ when we needed offense ?

[Freak Out]

That last play at the GL was mind blowing. Romeo was a TD but MVP throws right at the blitzers and a covered Lizard.

[Fosco33]

Packers near the bottom in forcing turnovers with 1 INT and 3 fumble recoveries for a -3 turnover margin.

I’m all for firing Barry right now. The whole ‘well, we gotta wait til next year’ is asinine. Imagine having a bad quarterback and being so reluctant to pull him.

It’s not acceptable to look this bad against a Fields, Zappe and an injured Giants team.

[Fritz]

I'm fine with them attempting a deep shot off play action, but they need to do it when they are running the ball and in an advantageous situation. They don't have an automatic guy like Davante they can feed to bail them out.

Side note -- what is this team's identity? What do they do well? I don't think they are playing as if they are a run-oriented, strong defensive team. They don't run the ball enough and panic if they fall behind, giving up on the run too fast. The defense has tons of talent, but once again the whole is playing less than the sum of its parts. Barry has them playing a lot of standard Cover-x and zone stuff with the corners off and they still can't figure out how to handle simple crossing routes, or how to defend a mobile QB on rollouts.

They really don't have that many new faces starting on offense or defense, so I'm not sure if that's a good excuse either.

There's a lot of football season left, but I keep waiting for this team to put it all together and play a good game for 4 quarters in all phases and haven't seen it yet. I'm starting to wonder if maybe it just isn't going to happen at all this year, and that maddening inconsistency is actually their identity.

Right now this is a team who will at best lose in the wildcard round. Sorry, that game really made me mad...this team has enough talent to beat a lot of teams and it seems like they can't get out of their own way long enough to do it.

This is a very good post.What is this team's identity? "Sucky o-line play, MLF morphing into Fat Mike, Arod morphing into 2018 self, all with a passive defense" seems to fit the bill so far.

[beveaux1]

LaFleur calls in two play options; and AROD has the full capacity to choose which one. I fear he's lost control of AROD. I fear AROD's attitude is not good and I fear AROD is going to continue to check out of plays to pass downfield and each time GB loses, we'll have the same reaction. Where TF were AJ and AJ when we needed offense ?

He begged Rodgers to come back. Literally, begged him. The GM allowed him to bring his own player to the team. There's no way that MLF doesn't allow him to call and change plays. There's no way he criticizes him for choosing the wrong play. There's also no way he exerts any control over Rodgers.

That dog left the room when Rodgers saw the video.

[Bretsky]

That last play at the GL was mind blowing. Romeo was a TD but MVP throws right at the blitzers and a covered Lizard.

It's also mind blowing that Cobb has 13 targets.

[Bretsky]

He begged Rodgers to come back. Literally, begged him. The GM allowed him to bring his own player to the team. There's no way that MLF doesn't allow him to call and change plays. There's no way he criticizes him for choosing the wrong play. There's also no way he exerts any control over Rodgers.

That dog left the room when Rodgers saw the video.

Unfortunately I agree with all of this at this point

[Bretsky]

This is a very good post.What is this team's identity? "Sucky o-line play, MLF morphing into Fat Mike, Arod morphing into 2018 self, all with a passive defense" seems to fit the bill so far.

WHERE DO WE HAVE ADVANTAGES ON OFFENSE ?

One might argue Nowhere. That's on Gutebag.

One might argue RB; then you gotta ride that pony.

[bobblehead]

And they did that by getting two of their CBs injured? As soon as the backup CBs came in the game, AROD tried to torch them. He completed one to Lazard on the first series after half time and then we had this horrible drive:

1st & 10 at GB 25
(10:03 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to A.Lazard.

2nd & 10 at GB 25
(10:03 - 4th) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short middle to R.Cobb (N.McCloud).

3rd & 10 at GB 25
(9:59 - 4th) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep left to A.Lazard (F.Moreau).

After that we went back to the run and short pass. We moved the ball on 5 out of 8 drives with no problem for the game.

Stop with your facts and logic. Packers lost and there is simply no hope!