Ruh Roh, Rastro: Aaron Rodgers Edition

[Bretsky]

Does it occur to you that this imbecile who wrote the thing if from the place of the team we play today? Hell yeah, it wouldn't surprise me in the least is he is misquoting, cherry picking, or just play making up shit - and all designed to stir up trouble. ALL of that is what the God damned media shitheads do.

And it's somewhere between humorous and just plain sick that some people in here - or in the God damned media for that matter - think they have a remote idea what's in Rodgers' head.

And talk about regretting re-signing/retaining Rodgers? That's just idiotic. With anybody but him at QB, the team would be in the toilet - the future 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or more years when he's gone.

Next year, there are supposedly several franchise QB's. So stockpliing draft pics, and if we could have used them to get a frachchise QB next year...not a bad plan.

Of course, I would not have a whole lot of confidence in Gute making that happen; but that is just me. He doesn't seem to be winning any trophies selecting QB's

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck Fritz!! I told all youz hoes that Santo Aaron was a shitty guy. But all of you loved it too much when he went deep for you.

[run pMc]

Fuck Fritz!! I told all youz hoes that Santo Aaron was a shitty guy. But all of you loved it too much when he went deep for you.

I think most of these highly successful franchise QBs are at a minimum a little off and many times flat-out nutcases (that's an official medical term) and shitty people.
Yes, I know good players aren't necessarily good people. (Aaron is still a good player.)

Aaron's a d-bag, but I think Favre's worse. Brady yells at his teammates like a 2 year old having a tantrum in the supermarket. Thankfully Ben Roeththsliatshrapesberger retired, that dude was cuckoo.

If you hate Aaron, that's your opinion and that's fine. I think he's a psychopath who can play QB well.

As for him not showing interest, it's probably him trying to mask his frustration vs. going the Brady route. I suspect he got a talking to from Gute to not shatter the confidence of Amari, Romeo and the other young receivers.

[Fritz]

Fuck Fritz!! I told all youz hoes that Santo Aaron was a shitty guy. But all of you loved it too much when he went deep for you.

Nah, Mad, I was on the "trade this fucker while you can" bandwagon.

And today's game sure makes more people wish they had.

[NewsBruin]

Here's an un-paywalled link to the WaPo article:

https://wapo.st/3DmTjlB

[Jaire]

I'd need more evidence than that article gave to explain Rodgers' struggles. I'm more inclined to believe that playing with no WR threat and a much-weakened OL are the biggest factors.

I'm not discounting the fact that he has 39-year-old legs and can't run like he used to, but looking at facial expressions is a little weak after 6 games.

...... esp the Oline. It's been really bad. Fix that, and everyone is singing Rodger's praises again. He's never had this bad an oline, as well as a weak WR core with changing parts every week. I'd like to see Stenovich demoted to Oline coach, cuz this is partly coaching. (That said, I haven't looked at the Oline v. Washington, and I'll give this line up a few weeks to figure it out. Glad they got Royce out and kicked Jenkins back inside.) Every QB struggles with a really bad Oline; and AR has lost a step, but still has plenty in the tank imo: had several very nice throws last games.

[Sparkey]

...... esp the Oline. It's been really bad. Fix that, and everyone is singing Rodger's praises again. He's never had this bad an oline, as well as a weak WR core with changing parts every week. I'd like to see Stenovich demoted to Oline coach, cuz this is partly coaching. (That said, I haven't looked at the Oline v. Washington, and I'll give this line up a few weeks to figure it out. Glad they got Royce out and kicked Jenkins back inside.) Every QB struggles with a really bad Oline; and AR has lost a step, but still has plenty in the tank imo: had several very nice throws last games.

Rodgers was hit once the whole game. Plenty of opportunities to step up in the pocket and make a throw, but he often panicked and took the check down or left a good pocket early. One play they showed on SNF, Watkins was wide open and he had a good pocket to step up and throw and yet he dumped it off for 3 yards. No one is afraid of Rodgers arm anymore. He looks lost. Next week we get to watch the best QB in the NFL. Too bad he plays for Buffalo.

[Jaire]

He has to get rid of the ball immediately. He had all day into tomorrow two years ago. I'm not seeing what you're seeing. And they were getting destroyed on some of the run plays.

I'm not saying that Rodgers is playing great: he's not. But fix the OL and AR will be fine: the run game will improve and he will settle down. No one is playing well on offense except Jones right now. Wahle is right; it's ugly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poZvdJyUQT0

[Jaire]

End of the chat with Wahle: AR is starting to see the rush (Jets game). So, yeah, it's Oline. They absolutely need to help AR more.

[Fritz]

Rodgers was hit once the whole game. Plenty of opportunities to step up in the pocket and make a throw, but he often panicked and took the check down or left a good pocket early. One play they showed on SNF, Watkins was wide open and he had a good pocket to step up and throw and yet he dumped it off for 3 yards. No one is afraid of Rodgers arm anymore. He looks lost. Next week we get to watch the best QB in the NFL. Too bad he plays for Buffalo.

I think I saw that play on Twitter. Apparently Watkins made a read at the LOS and went deep - and damn he was open. Rodgers could've easily gotten him the ball - he had time - but he'd pre-determined where that ball was going, and it wasn't to Watkins. We used to complain about Rodgers holding on to the ball too long, but now it looks like the opposite - he's made his decision as to where the ball's going before the ball has been snapped. He looks at the defense pre-snap, makes a decision based on how he sees the defense lining up, and picks his play. If you're the defense and you see this tendency, you bait him into what you want him to do. Rodgers is like a drunk overeager 55 year-old guy at a strip club.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Next week we get to watch the best QB in the NFL. Too bad he plays for Buffalo.

Patrick Mahomes plays for Buffalo?

[bobblehead]

Next year, there are supposedly several franchise QB's. So stockpliing draft pics, and if we could have used them to get a frachchise QB next year...not a bad plan.

Of course, I would not have a whole lot of confidence in Gute making that happen; but that is just me. He doesn't seem to be winning any trophies selecting QB's

You could argue that Gutes did that, in the immediate aftermath of Rodgers playing eerily similar to how he is playing right now. Lets revisit 2020 QB class.

Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Hurts have all been very successful (and gotten chances to play). Most analysts had Love as a first round pick. He is the only QB in the wave of picks 1-53 that hasn't gotten a real shot. And before we write him off, remember that Tua and Hurts didn't look so hot in their first year of starts.

I thought we should have traded Rodgers for the 3 firsts then. Gutes big mistake was deciding he HAD to hold on to ARod.

[bobblehead]

End of the chat with Wahle: AR is starting to see the rush (Jets game). So, yeah, it's Oline. They absolutely need to help AR more.

He also needs to simply throw it to the "right" guy and not worry about that guy dropping it. I have seen him shy away from open Romeo too ofter after some drops. And in week one Watson was iced after the big drop.

Rodgers has to simply throw it to the (take your pick) Isolated coverage, hot read, presnap read. If the guy runs the wrong route or drops it, the coaches need to handle that.

But yes, I think there were 3 third down drops that would have been a first down in Wasington.

[Fritz]

You could argue that Gutes did that, in the immediate aftermath of Rodgers playing eerily similar to how he is playing right now. Lets revisit 2020 QB class.

Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Hurts have all been very successful (and gotten chances to play). Most analysts had Love as a first round pick. He is the only QB in the wave of picks 1-53 that hasn't gotten a real shot. And before we write him off, remember that Tua and Hurts didn't look so hot in their first year of starts.

I thought we should have traded Rodgers for the 3 firsts then. Gutes big mistake was deciding he HAD to hold on to ARod.

Agreed. I am not sure why so many Rats are so sure Love was a horrible pick. We don't really know that yet. Give the guy a year to start, and then we'll talk.

[texaspackerbacker]

Undoubtedly this ground has been covered a ton of times. He may or may not end up being terrible; He could even end up being fairly good or even very good; I suppose there's a slim slim chance he even ends up being something like Favre or Rodgers. It was just a colossal error to draft him at the time they drafted him. We didn't need a replacement starting QB then or for at least several years after, and any number of college QBs coming out have just as good a chance to be good or great as Love has.