Studs and Duds Bills Edition

[beveaux1]

We had a near 400 yard offensive performance and outgained the Bills. We won the turnover battle for the first time this year.

Unfortunately, we still were beaten by 10 because of a poor first half defensive performance by the Packers or a great first half offensive performance by the Bills.

Studs:

Jones
Dillon
Rodgers
Doubs
Run blocking OL

Duds:

Savage
Amos
Walker
Pass blocking Interior OL

[RashanGary]

Tom isn’t ready. He’s a natural ball player but too small.

[Joemailman]

Alexander was a stud. INT, 4 passes defensed and did not give up a reception when covering Diggs.

I thought Gary was a dud. 1 tackle, 0 QB hits. Enagbare, in far less playing time, was better.

[beveaux1]

Alexander was a stud. INT, 4 passes defensed and did not give up a reception when covering Diggs.

I thought Gary was a dud. 1 tackle, 0 QB hits. Enagbare, in far less playing time, was better.

Actually, none of the CBs stunk the joint up. Stokes was better than he has been. Douglas had a tough assignment, covering Diggs, and he did OK.

Savage was bad. Worst tackler on the defense.

I thought there was good pressure on Allen the whole game. How much was Gary I don’t know. They just couldn’t tackle him.

[Tony Oday]

No reason 23 isn't on Diggs, this d coordinator shouldn't have been allowed on the plane.

AR actually three the ball tonight, he needs to realize he can throw the ball to these guys and let them make plays. Jones and Dillon looked great.

[Joemailman]

Aaron Nagler last night:

"When did Darnell Savage become Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix?"

[call_me_ishmael]

Seriously, how did this guy become so bad? He has all the tools. Nick Collins he is not.

[texaspackerbacker]

Gary was getting in there, coming close all game, but when Allen move up in the pocket, our D Line had no push there and he was able to get away. The interior D Line also allowed a lot of big runs early in the game. It's probably not that they were so bad, just that Buffalo had a good O Line, like most teams. Gary, Smith, and Enagbare all lost contain a few times, but overall, I wouldn't call them duds.

Campbell was playing like a dud even before going out. Ditto that to some extent for Walker. Wilson and McDuffie were seemingly no worse, maybe better than the starters.

Absolutely, Savage was a dud. I'd bench him and use Douglas at Safety with Nixon at Slot. Maybe try Savage at punt returning - he is at least fast, and he couldn't be worse than Amari.

This was the best our O Line has looked in a long time - close to being studs on run plays, although Jones and to a lesser extent Dillon did a lot with not very good blocking on some plays. For once, I don't even have much of a complaint against the sacred cow, Bakhtiari - although they were helping out him and Nijman a LOT with TEs. Really, it was just Tom who gor beat consistently. I don't think they came over Myers and Runyan much. I woulda thought they'd have tried Newman for Tom. He may not be much, but I don't recall him being as bad as Tom.

Studs: all mentioned already - roughly in order, A. Jones, Jaire, Rodgers, Doubs, Toure, I'll throw in Tonyan and DeGuara too - the best I've seen that latter play.

It don't take much to look like a stud compared to recent games hahahahaha. Kinda disgusting to have this much positive to say in a loss, even to a good team.

[Sparkey]

Studs: Toure.... His first TD catch and he made a great adjustment to bend off the route after the defender turned his back. Unteachable stuff. Doubs looked good. Dillon and Jones ran the ball hard and forcefully. Rodgers looked better and more active in the pocket and made some really good throws. Missed the one to Doubs early as it was an under throw.

Duds: The defensive line is just bad and the whole read/react by the line is a joke. These guys are being pushed and manipulated and making it really difficult for the rest of the defense. Is it me or does the defense seem even more passive than last years line ?

Zach Tom is not big or strong enough to play guard. The loss of Jenkins for this game really hurt. In hindsight, thinking that Bahk and Jenks would both be ready was a mistake and it is costing them games.

The TE's: All their TE's are terrible in the passing game. Tonyan has no acceleration and it is making it too easy on defenses.

Super Dud: I have seen enough! Barry is terrible. Fire his ass and let Gray run the defense the rest of the year. Don't care that Gray is a 4-3 guy. He can't be any worse than Barry.

[beveaux1]

I'm not high on Barry, but one of our biggest problems all year has been tackling. That's on the guys playing defense, not the coach.

Stokes never tackles in run-support. Savage is pretty useless. Campbell is not tackling like he did last year. Amos is missing tackles.

Every 4 yard run becomes an 8 yard run. An 8 yard run becomes a 22 yard run.

The first thing I'd do is replace Savage with Rudy Ford. That guy flies around like a missile. He has deficiencies in pass coverage, but he can tackle.

There's a reason that the replacement ILBs weren't noticeably bad. They made some tackles. Maybe a demotion will wake up the defense.

[bobblehead]

Tom isn’t ready. He’s a natural ball player but too small.

You can't just move a guy every week to a new position and expect him to ball out. He can and will be fine. If the preferred line is bak, jenkins, myers, runyan, yosh than Tom is the odd man out and this is his role for now. If the preferred line can stay healthy and play together I think it can be pretty damn good. The moved the ball and did ok against the best defense in football. Give Tom a real NFL off season to gain mass and muscle, and then give him a position and he will be good. In the meantime we can figure out of Bak can ever be relied on week in and out again. Maybe Jenkins can get back to 100% as well.

Sadly it doesn't look like its in the books for this year, but then again, stranger things have happened than a talented team putting it together at the right time.....

[bobblehead]

Alexander was a stud. INT, 4 passes defensed and did not give up a reception when covering Diggs.

I thought Gary was a dud. 1 tackle, 0 QB hits. Enagbare, in far less playing time, was better.

Gary is my new nominee for the most held player in the league.

[bobblehead]

Aaron Nagler last night:

"When did Darnell Savage become Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix?"

From the prediction thread

Offenses usually try to target a defenses weakness. To start the season we don't have any discernible soft spots on D. I'll predict that a bunch of "2nd tier" guys look like all pros simply because teams will test them. Others will be exposed for being over rated.

So my biggest prediction is massive disappointment in Savage. He will be picked on and exposed as not what we hoped he would be.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I'm not high on Barry, but one of our biggest problems all year has been tackling. That's on the guys playing defense, not the coach.

Stokes never tackles in run-support. Savage is pretty useless. Campbell is not tackling like he did last year. Amos is missing tackles.

Every 4 yard run becomes an 8 yard run. An 8 yard run becomes a 22 yard run.

The first thing I'd do is replace Savage with Rudy Ford. That guy flies around like a missile. He has deficiencies in pass coverage, but he can tackle.

There's a reason that the replacement ILBs weren't noticeably bad. They made some tackles. Maybe a demotion will wake up the defense.

Hasn't that always been a Packer problem? At least for the secondary guys..

[bobblehead]

Studs: Toure.... His first TD catch and he made a great adjustment to bend off the route after the defender turned his back. Unteachable stuff. Doubs looked good. Dillon and Jones ran the ball hard and forcefully. Rodgers looked better and more active in the pocket and made some really good throws. Missed the one to Doubs early as it was an under throw.

Duds: The defensive line is just bad and the whole read/react by the line is a joke. These guys are being pushed and manipulated and making it really difficult for the rest of the defense. Is it me or does the defense seem even more passive than last years line ?

Zach Tom is not big or strong enough to play guard. The loss of Jenkins for this game really hurt. In hindsight, thinking that Bahk and Jenks would both be ready was a mistake and it is costing them games.

The TE's: All their TE's are terrible in the passing game. Tonyan has no acceleration and it is making it too easy on defenses.

Super Dud: I have seen enough! Barry is terrible. Fire his ass and let Gray run the defense the rest of the year. Don't care that Gray is a 4-3 guy. He can't be any worse than Barry.

Tom needs an offseason as I said. He is big enough to play guard and probably can right now, but added strength will help him a lot. He is undersized to play tackle, but his technique is so good he probably can...but again, adding 15 pounds of muscle this offseason will make him better than serviceable.

We played the NFLs best team and they were coming off a bye week. We had none of our preseason "top 3" WR from the time Watson left the game. We still moved the ball and ran it very well (although they lined up daring us to pass all game long). We played a juggernaut off a bye week. We got beat by a better team. Wouldn't it be awesome if we got healthy and clicked LATE for a change and got a rematch in the post season!!!