More Banjo - Packers vs Titans

[Sparkey]

I have two thoughts. Maybe not good ones, though.

1) Were they too quick to get rid of Mike Pettine? I didn't think he was all that bad although there were a few clear communication breakdowns that were pretty egregious.

2) It is just me or does it seem like a new coordinator/coach does great the first year then sort of stinks and reverts to their career average? Seemed like it happened with Dom, Pettine, and now Berry.

Pettine - communication issues in secondary
Berry - communication issues in secondary

Both coaches have the same db coach ? Hmmm.

[Joemailman]

I'm starting to think the Rodgers signing was a Mark Murphy move. Say all you want about Gute, but at the top of the three silos is a chair that Murphy sits in.

No question Murphy would have to approve it. Ball was the guy who had to work out all the numbers. Hard to say for sure if Gute was fully on board.

[Fritz]

I'm starting to think the Rodgers signing was a Mark Murphy move. Say all you want about Gute, but at the top of the three silos is a chair that Murphy sits in.

This was always PBMax's complaint, this silo design.

Yeah, it's hard to say who thought what - we may never find out.

Trade Rodgers! Last year you might've gotten two firsts; maybe you could still get one.

[RashanGary]

True, and the 2 high is reportedly a reason scoring is down this year.

I think you could mix in other coverages (Cover-1) on early downs or at least play more Cover-2 Man instead of playing Jaire in a curl/flat zone. Dude runs a 4.3 and makes like $25M and you're playing him in off zone coverage like he's Quentin Rollins. That just doesn't seem like smart use of your personnel. Coaches should put the players in position to succeed based on what they do well.

Barry has often chosen to just run a borrowed scheme vs. create a scheme that is tailored to his players.

Jaire is a better zone corner so they are putting him in position to succeed. And 2 high man, we wouldn’t be able to stop the run. There is a reason 2 high zone is being used right now. Offenses can do too many things against the other defenses.

[bobblehead]

They traded away their 2023 1st and 2nd round picks in the Russell Wilson trade.

I didn't say DRAFT capital...although 2024 picks wouldn't bother me

[run pMc]

Jaire is a better zone corner so they are putting him in position to succeed. And 2 high man, we wouldn’t be able to stop the run. There is a reason 2 high zone is being used right now. Offenses can do too many things against the other defenses.

Jaire can play either well, but I think he's a better man corner.
They can't really stop the run no matter what they call, which is not how it was supposed to be.

To be clear, I'm not against them playing zone, Barry and Gray have them playing so far off in zone that it's almost a practice drill for the opposing team. Zone has its benefits but they should mix it up more and play it tighter. playing 8 yards off on 3rd and 6 is bad.

[RashanGary]

Jaire can play either well, but I think he's a better man corner.
They can't really stop the run no matter what they call, which is not how it was supposed to be.

To be clear, I'm not against them playing zone, Barry and Gray have them playing so far off in zone that it's almost a practice drill for the opposing team. Zone has its benefits but they should mix it up more and play it tighter. playing 8 yards off on 3rd and 6 is bad.

I see him beat more often in man. I think he’s a really quick trigger from zone and can cover all routes from off. But I could be wrong.

Hard to tell if our average defense is because of talent or coaching. Coaching is easier to change. Might have to make a move. Gute has to be getting into hot water. Lafleur too. They’re not very good right now.

[Bretsky]

It’s a shame but I am making the call that Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy is coming off the market by December 1st. He’d have been such a great fit in gb it’s a shame they weren’t more aggressive in their pursuit on a
Fiscal level. Barry has to go away though

[call_me_ishmael]

I don't think Goot or LaFleur are in hot water, but I suspect they will make a DC change if only to change things up. There D was legit last year, I have to wonder what has changed. The players, if anything, got better. My gut feeling is that coaches, like everyone else, gets a little more comfortable and puts in less work in later years, and then voices start to get blocked out. Personally, I think it's important to rotate coaches every few years.

[bobblehead]

I don't think Goot or LaFleur are in hot water, but I suspect they will make a DC change if only to change things up. There D was legit last year, I have to wonder what has changed. The players, if anything, got better. My gut feeling is that coaches, like everyone else, gets a little more comfortable and puts in less work in later years, and then voices start to get blocked out. Personally, I think it's important to rotate coaches every few years.

This is a league where good coaches learn a way and run it, but great coaches study film and adapt. There are a lot of good coaches, but the Vic Fanzio or Mike Zimmer guys are few. Is MiLF a guy who learned the Shanahan way, or is he a guy who will adapt? I think we got our answer regarding Berry or Barry or whatever.