Packers Releasing Sammy Watkins

[Joemailman]

The Packer beat reporters do a decent job. It's the reporters who don't regularly cover the Packers and are just looking for an "Aaron Rodgers story" who are a bit suspect.

[MadScientist]

I don't see what the all the outcry over the article in the Athletic is about. When I read it, it really came across as a more detailed description of what the Packers do with their receivers, and in large part why receivers new to the system struggle. Rodgers is doing his thing, and it looks like Love is heavily involved in that hand signal system as well now. The rookie receivers are waking up to just what a shock this system is for them, but that is part of becoming a pro. Nothing earth shattering or offensive about saying that or even giving some details as to why it's difficult for them. The only one who really looks bad is Gute because he let the position just sit for several years and now there's no time for a batch of rookies to learn the nuances before being thrown into the fire. He needed to actually draft a good one about every other year to give them time to develop.

We all saw this problem coming. It's not on Rodgers. It's not on the rookie receivers, as long as they are putting in the work. It's all on Gute for failing to do something about the obvious situation the Packers were heading into.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers said it was all anonymous bullshit. But as Florio mentions, all the quotes were attributed to teammates

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/21/aaron-rodgers-trashed-report-based-entirely-on-on-the-record-quotes-from-teammates/

Rodgers is caught in a lie

Watkins also mentions in the article how there are actually two offenses. The official one the practice, and then Rodgers where he just expects the guys to go wherever he thinks they should go

Someone linked a Kurt warner breakdown of a game awhile back. I watched it all. Watkins ran 3 HORRIBLY wrong routes in that game. On one, Rodgers rolled right and sammy from the left side ran an out instead of a drag. Where he should have been was WIDE open green. Rodgers ended up throwing it into the dirt. Another in the same game was 3rd and goal from the 3 when sammy ran an in with iso on the edge. Everyone knows that should have been a fade. Just basic stuff he was messing up. No excuse for that.

[Bretsky]

Im hella biased against media too. They’re always looking for some angle of controversy to write a story. But they reach to sensationalize. And whenever someone calls them out for being dishonest they cry that it’s their job and nobody should criticize them publicly.

It’s a shady, dishonest, crummy profession from what I see. Don’t trust them a lick. Glad 12 sets the record straight on the McCafee show.

You are kidding here, right ?

[Bretsky]

Rich Bisachia just came into his presser late and said he was late because Rodgers approached him to go over hand signals and Rich got 4 of them wrong, which drew displeasure from Rodgers.

That article was a joke. No attempt at all to find quotes explaining how the signals are necessary, just an attempt to make Rodgers look difficult to work with.

Have you read the entire article "and" listened to the interviews of the person who wrote it ?

I don't see how the article is that big of a deal but to me Rodgers reaction actually gives us more merit than I thought it had.

[Bretsky]

I don't see what the all the outcry over the article in the Athletic is about. When I read it, it really came across as a more detailed description of what the Packers do with their receivers, and in large part why receivers new to the system struggle. Rodgers is doing his thing, and it looks like Love is heavily involved in that hand signal system as well now. The rookie receivers are waking up to just what a shock this system is for them, but that is part of becoming a pro. Nothing earth shattering or offensive about saying that or even giving some details as to why it's difficult for them. The only one who really looks bad is Gute because he let the position just sit for several years and now there's no time for a batch of rookies to learn the nuances before being thrown into the fire. He needed to actually draft a good one about every other year to give them time to develop.

We all saw this problem coming. It's not on Rodgers. It's not on the rookie receivers, as long as they are putting in the work. It's all on Gute for failing to do something about the obvious situation the Packers were heading into.

[Bretsky]

Someone linked a Kurt warner breakdown of a game awhile back. I watched it all. Watkins ran 3 HORRIBLY wrong routes in that game. On one, Rodgers rolled right and sammy from the left side ran an out instead of a drag. Where he should have been was WIDE open green. Rodgers ended up throwing it into the dirt. Another in the same game was 3rd and goal from the 3 when sammy ran an in with iso on the edge. Everyone knows that should have been a fade. Just basic stuff he was messing up. No excuse for that.

It was Jaire who shares that, and I agree with your points

[run pMc]

I don't see what the all the outcry over the article in the Athletic is about. When I read it, it really came across as a more detailed description of what the Packers do with their receivers, and in large part why receivers new to the system struggle. Rodgers is doing his thing, and it looks like Love is heavily involved in that hand signal system as well now. The rookie receivers are waking up to just what a shock this system is for them, but that is part of becoming a pro. Nothing earth shattering or offensive about saying that or even giving some details as to why it's difficult for them. The only one who really looks bad is Gute because he let the position just sit for several years and now there's no time for a batch of rookies to learn the nuances before being thrown into the fire. He needed to actually draft a good one about every other year to give them time to develop.

We all saw this problem coming. It's not on Rodgers. It's not on the rookie receivers, as long as they are putting in the work. It's all on Gute for failing to do something about the obvious situation the Packers were heading into.

Agree they should have been drafting WRs more often. I think most of us here have been yelling for years to draft them. DeAngelo Yancey and Malachi Dupre didn't exactly move the needle when they did. I think they should draft a WR in the mid rounds every other year at the bare minimum, just so they have a constant pipeline of young talent that doesn't need to be thrown into the fire. With how they are getting paid now you almost need to keep drafting and replacing them, plus (as with corners) you need more than one or two.

[run pMc]

Someone linked a Kurt warner breakdown of a game awhile back. I watched it all. Watkins ran 3 HORRIBLY wrong routes in that game. On one, Rodgers rolled right and sammy from the left side ran an out instead of a drag. Where he should have been was WIDE open green. Rodgers ended up throwing it into the dirt. Another in the same game was 3rd and goal from the 3 when sammy ran an in with iso on the edge. Everyone knows that should have been a fade. Just basic stuff he was messing up. No excuse for that.

Yeah there have been a few games where if you watch him, you wonder what he's doing on the field. Poor routes or no separation. When he was open Rodgers 'isn't seeing him' so you could point to Sammy not being trustworthy. Kind of strange for a vet receiver - and one with experience in a McVay offense - to look so lost at times.

[NewsBruin]

"Lumping all media as worthless pukes" is a generalization that is true much more often than not. The bastards do their damnedest to stir up trouble.

That's fair. You want something else, here's an option.

[George Cumby]

You are kidding here, right ?

McAfee is a victim of syphilitic brain lesions.