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  • How do you Linley overraters and Myers detractors explain the excellent inside running game we've had the past two seasons - far better than we had with Linsley as Center?
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    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      How do you Linley overraters and Myers detractors explain the excellent inside running game we've had the past two seasons - far better than we had with Linsley as Center?
      Can you provide proof that it's 'far better'? What does 'far better' mean?
      There are statistics that tell you the offense did poorly on 4th downs and also inside the 5 with Myers at starter this year compared with 2 years ago.

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      • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
        Can you provide proof that it's 'far better'? What does 'far better' mean?
        There are statistics that tell you the offense did poorly on 4th downs and also inside the 5 with Myers at starter this year compared with 2 years ago.
        Well, Tex has been complaining for years that Bach sucks and we can't run outside zone. So that means we can only run inside zone. And Tex remembers that one play where Myers had a good block so he must be better.

        Actual numbers:
        2022: 456 attempts, 2,113 yards, 12 TDs, 4.63 YPC
        2021: 446 attempts, 1,900 yards, 13 TDs, 4.26 YPC
        2020: 443 attempts, 2,118 yards, 16 TDs, 4.78 YPC
        2019: 411 attempts, 1,795 yards, 18 TDs, 4.37 YPC
        2018: 333 attempts, 1,667 yards, 14 TDs, 5.01 YPC

        Of course totals don't tell you what the play call was or not.
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        • Also: when looking at totals consider the last two years have included a 17th game.

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          • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            Hard to believe Myers isn't appreciated. We never had much inside running with Linsley. Myers is about as good for pass blocking and way better for run blocking.
            1) We had great inside running with Lindsey. 2) Myers was damn good his rookie year, but regressed this last season. Not totally uncommon coming off an injury. I'll be interested in year 3.
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            • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              How do you Linley overraters and Myers detractors explain the excellent inside running game we've had the past two seasons - far better than we had with Linsley as Center?
              Do I need to explain something you are wrong about??
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                Well, Tex has been complaining for years that Bach sucks and we can't run outside zone. So that means we can only run inside zone. And Tex remembers that one play where Myers had a good block so he must be better.

                Actual numbers:
                2022: 456 attempts, 2,113 yards, 12 TDs, 4.63 YPC
                2021: 446 attempts, 1,900 yards, 13 TDs, 4.26 YPC
                2020: 443 attempts, 2,118 yards, 16 TDs, 4.78 YPC
                2019: 411 attempts, 1,795 yards, 18 TDs, 4.37 YPC
                2018: 333 attempts, 1,667 yards, 14 TDs, 5.01 YPC

                Of course totals don't tell you what the play call was or not.
                At least you got your last line right. I'm fairly sure a whole lot more of those successful runs were up the middle/in the guard-center gap. And a lot of failed outside runs were to Bakhtiari's side. Claiming Myers had a good block on "one play" is both blind and stupid. Somebody said Myers regressed after the injury in his second season ....... maybe some. It's also possible the Guard play wasn't as good.

                As for Linsley, he was good too, although I still don't think he was as good as Myers. And Linsley was commanding way too much money. It was a good move to let him go.
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                • Tex, as my gramp would say, "Your eyes must be brown, cause you are full of shit"

                  Cease and desist with your evaluation of Oline personnel.

                  You have no idea what you are talking about.

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                  • So you're saying the team did NOT run with great success inside and did NOT generally have very little success running outside either left or right? Seriously?
                    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      So you're saying the team did NOT run with great success inside and did NOT generally have very little success running outside either left or right? Seriously?
                      I don't see where he said that.

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                      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Hendon Hooker? 2nd might be a little early. But it's early. He'd be a developmental guy who ran a spread offense very different from NFL offenses.
                        I don't know who he played for, but it reminds me a lot of Art Briles' offense: quick to formation, widely spaced receivers, deep routes, small route tree. This forces the defense to play a lot of man. QB reads only left or right half of the field, picks his target based on alignment and feasts off the fourth-best receiver being better than the fourth-best DB. Throw in QB/RB delayed handoff drawing safetys close, pulling OL on every play, and CFB's more generous downfield-blocking tolerance, and it's a vicious concept that doesn't translate well to the pros.
                        Last edited by NewsBruin; 02-14-2023, 09:09 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          Ish, that seems like EXACTLY the kind of thing Rodgers would do.

                          Not sure how the security part would work. Maybe the facility has private security all over the place. And someone to greet you after four days without light, to re-orient you. Bet that messes a person up.
                          Might just go to his five-car garage and have an epiphany after tripping over the lawnmower.
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                          • Rodgers buddies all void tomorrow so today should be telling about the future for him,

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                            • Jimmy in Philly. Why did GB not make the call? Flower is a good coach but won’t be great if he won’t try to get incremental

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                              • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                                Jimmy in Philly. Why did GB not make the call? Flower is a good coach but won’t be great if he won’t try to get incremental

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