Off-season 2023 Banjo

[Deputy Nutz]

I always thought teams in the more modern era ruined a lot of young guys' careers by throwing them into the fire as rookies. Cripes, the first year you're just trying to remember where the clean towels are and what "X-slant thirty-five G-6" means in the playbook. How can you acclimate and process and still be effective?

You have seen more top 10 draft busts in the last few years than in any other era because they draft these QBs on potential and then thrown them deep into the fire with no life lines.
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Mitch Trubisky
Zac Wilson

If I was the Jets I would have done the same thing to get Rodgers because obviously you suck at drafting QBs. What I will say is that I give them credit for continuing to draft them and to cut bait as soon as they don't like what the are seeing.

[bobblehead]

You have seen more top 10 draft busts in the last few years than in any other era because they draft these QBs on potential and then thrown them deep into the fire with no life lines.
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Mitch Trubisky
Zac Wilson

If I was the Jets I would have done the same thing to get Rodgers because obviously you suck at drafting QBs. What I will say is that I give them credit for continuing to draft them and to cut bait as soon as they don't like what the are seeing.

Mayfield needed a holmgren to dial him down. Rosen just flat out sucks. No accuracy. Darnold was always Dilfer material in my book. Wilson has a chance if they work with him from the bench. Trubisky I thought would be better.

[red]

those are what happens when a 3rd round pick goes top 5 because they are the next best QB in the draft

IMO darnold had to have the greatest marketing team of all time working for him. the media just continued to take this guy deep up the ass, but every time i watched him, he didn't do shit, but the whole game the commentators kept talking about how good he really is

so i would look at the stats, nope, ststs weren't great. you had to go back to his sophomore or freshman year to see him have a few big games, otherwise, nothing special

but the guys on TV and the radio and online would just go on and on about how good he was.

then he went to the jets, AND SUCKED. but the talking heads kept saying he was really good, the jets just sucked. they all said he needed a new team and he would be great. he got a new team, AND HE SUCKED!!!!

and yet there are still actually some out there that think he can be great

it baffles me, it really does

[run pMc]

I'll be honest, I didn't really watch many QBs closely over the last decade or so, mostly because we had 12 and he was so good.
There were a few guys who I did watch and could tell were good like Burrow, so wasn't surprised he went high. I think Bryce Young is good but wow is he little.

I know a lot of people liked Darnold but I didn't really watch him. All these guys have good arms etc. but I think no matter how good you are you need time, patience, some luck and a lot of hard work to make it at QB. Most teams drafting a QB take them high and aren't patient, and they also tend to have bad/losing culture, coaches/GMs trying to keep their jobs, and shitty talent around the QB. Does anyone think Houston or Indy is a good situation for a rookie QB to just get thrown into the deep end?

OTOH I thought what ARI did with Rosen and Murray took a lot of balls, but was also smart -- it looks kind of bad, but on some level it makes sense to keep drafting QBs until you find a good one, because once you do you're probably good for 10+ years. I don't know if Murray is the answer in ARI, plenty of blame between him and Kliff Kingsbury, but the point is the FO cut bait on Rosen fast and kept going.

[run pMc]

LS Jack Coco released

Rookie tryout players William Hooper (CB), Boughton Hatcher (LS), and Antonio Moultrie (DL) signed.

[Fritz]

LS Jack Coco released

Rookie tryout players William Hooper (CB), Boughton Hatcher (LS), and Antonio Moultrie (DL) signed.

As I understand it, reports are out that the Packers will not be re-signing Mercedes Lewis.

That's a puzzler to me. The guy wants to play, by all accounts is a great teacher and lockerroom leader, and he'd show the two brand-new draft picks the ropes - how to be a professional, how to carry yourself, how to block, all the "little" things. And I can't imagine he wants much in the way of a contract - he's still unsigned. So why not cut Tyler Davis?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

As I understand it, reports are out that the Packers will not be re-signing Mercedes Lewis.

That's a puzzler to me. The guy wants to play, by all accounts is a great teacher and lockerroom leader, and he'd show the two brand-new draft picks the ropes - how to be a professional, how to carry yourself, how to block, all the "little" things. And I can't imagine he wants much in the way of a contract - he's still unsigned. So why not cut Tyler Davis?

Can’t have an all-white TE corps with Lewis around.

[MadScientist]

As I understand it, reports are out that the Packers will not be re-signing Mercedes Lewis.

That's a puzzler to me. The guy wants to play, by all accounts is a great teacher and lockerroom leader, and he'd show the two brand-new draft picks the ropes - how to be a professional, how to carry yourself, how to block, all the "little" things. And I can't imagine he wants much in the way of a contract - he's still unsigned. So why not cut Tyler Davis?

Packers know that an old Mercedes isn't worth it.

At this point, he doesn't have a lot to offer as a player. The rest of the stuff would be great if he wants to transition to coaching.

[run pMc]

Safety Jonathon Owens signed by Green Bay.
Probably shuts the door to Amos coming back.

[NewsBruin]

We signed an Olympic GOAT('s husband) to our roster!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

We signed an Olympic GOAT('s husband) to our roster!

Wait, Michael Phelps is gay?

28 medals denote Olympic GOAT.

[smuggler]

The Olympic GOAT of subjective Olympics.

[Fritz]

We signed an Olympic GOAT('s husband) to our roster!

Sounds like he’s a solid player. Obviously not Olympic-class, world-beater, or else he wouldn’t still be available, but a younger version of Amos, with more speed. And a classy guy, I think. Very talented and driven wife, too.

[NewsBruin]

Wait, Michael Phelps is gay?

28 medals denote Olympic GOAT.

Which is why I used a partitive and not a definitive article.

From what little I've read, Owens is one of the lowest-rated full-time starters from last season. On paper, I wouldnt want him to be our starter, but it's nice to have someone with seasoning as a backup.

[Fritz]

Which is why I used a partitive and not a definitive article.

From what little I've read, Owens is one of the lowest-rated full-time starters from last season. On paper, I wouldnt want him to be our starter, but it's nice to have someone with seasoning as a backup.

Given the dearth of talent at that position for Green Bay, it looks to me like they've signed him to be a stop-gap starter My guess is they need someone with experience who will be able to work alongside someone like Darnell Savage, who seems to need a steady hand next to him since, well, he's not.

News, what do you think about this Owens guy as a starter instead of, say, re-signing Amos as the stop-gap starter?