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What do you want FB to do with AROD in 2023---AND some thoughts

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  • #16
    They made a contract that made winning early possible if he stays as an option. Another option is he retires and we can handle the hit. And the third option is to trade him to a team who gets 36 per year deal.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
      I think it's very clear they're moving towards a trade.

      How can anyone listen to this and not think that?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWHrlfIlhvY
      First part of the presser I'd say yes, you are right. When somebody asked if they wanted Rodgers back, Gutes said something like "Yeah we want all our guys back." That seemed to indicate that maybe no. My sense from the first half of it was that they hope Rodgers wants to keep playing but that maybe they'd like it if he wanted to play for someone else, so they can trade him.

      Second half, he seemed to back off that and came out more strongly in favor of Rodgers staying - that he still gives the team the best chance to win.

      So hell, I don't know.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Good Poll, Bretsky. Good to get people on the record - for sanity and good sense or for stupidity and ingratitude.
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #19
          ^ "Ingratitude". LOL.

          What, pray tell, do I owe Karen Rodgers?

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          • #20
            I think he could play better next year, but you're gambling on a lot of things going right, especially if you think he'll return to MVP form.
            He's on the physical decline & more likely to get injured as he ages, and he's not seeing open receivers. If you can get your hands on All-22 film watch how often he's still choosing to go for a lower percentage "big play" vs. throwing to his open receivers and giving them a chance to do something. A lot of his greatness was with his accuracy and throws outside the pocket, his mobility and ability to do that has diminished. Not much upside to keeping an aging, expensive, middling QB unless you can pair it with a Championship caliber defense, and Joe Barry won't make that happen.

            It's a roster with talent, but they've tried "running it back" for two years now and it hasn't worked. (Something something definition of insanity.) Some of that talent will have aged out or been cut for cap purposes.

            Eat the $40M, trade him for a R1 swap and a R2 to a team like NYJ -- i.e., somewhere in the AFC that has enough talent where Rodgers feels he can do well. Start Jordan Love, see what you have in him running the MLF offense vs. what looks like a moribund MLF-McCarthy hybrid. If JLove sucks, you're in a position to draft top 10 in what should be another good QB class. They'll have cap space and a clean slate to move ahead. If JLove turns out to be top 15 QB level, you're probably as good as Rodgers was this year, possibly better...and can extend him.

            I don't see much upside to bringing back some of his guys: Tonyan, Lazard, Cobb, Lewis, Crosby are what they are at this point. You might give up some consistency losing them, but replacing them with younger ,cheaper, more athletic players gives you a chance to improve vs. treading water with old guys on a middling team. That might also get him listening to a trade for greener pastures.

            Love Rodgers the player and what he's done for GB, but it's time.

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            • #21
              Trade him. I'm good if he stays, but I don't see them winning it all with this team and staff. Might as well get what you can now. Better to tradee a year early than a year late.

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              • #22
                Trade Rodgers to the Jets. Rodgers plays 1 year with Jets and retires. Kirk Cousins is a free agent with void years in 2024. Vikings sign unretired Rodgers. Vikings lose in 2024 NFC Title Game. Packers win Super Bowl in 2025. Love is Super Bowl MVP. Rodgers retires for good. Appears in Wrangler commercials.

                Might as well embrace it now.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  Trade Rodgers to the Jets. Rodgers plays 1 year with Jets and retires. Kirk Cousins is a free agent with void years in 2024. Vikings sign unretired Rodgers. Vikings lose in 2024 NFC Title Game. Packers win Super Bowl in 2025. Love is Super Bowl MVP. Rodgers retires for good. Appears in Wrangler commercials.

                  Might as well embrace it now.
                  Only issue I have with this is I doubt Wrangler thinks Rodgers matches their target demographic.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                    Only issue I have with this is I doubt Wrangler thinks Rodgers matches their target demographic.
                    Yeah, Butte referred to himself as a hippie on the McAfee show. Favor’s a redneck.

                    Maybe Levi’s skinny jeans.

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                    • #25
                      Andrew Brandt talking about the Rodgers situation among other things. Rodgers segment starts at 3:55

                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #26
                        Trade, trade, trade…

                        The NFL proves time and time again that it usually is better to let a guy go a year too early than a year too late. Last year was the time to jettison Rodgers, and Gute did the right thing having Love in place. But he got too caught up in the drama.

                        It’s no different for me than the Crosby situation this year. I love Crosby, and he might have a little left in the tank, but it is time to pull the trigger and move on if you are the Packers. Football is a young man’s game. Brady is an outlier and then some.
                        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                        • #27
                          ^ Yeah, Gute should've fleeced Denver last year.

                          Oh, well.

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                          • #28
                            I’d love to trade him, Bahk and Cobb to the Raiders for a boatload of cash/picks.

                            But I think and am fine if GB keeps him and trades Love for a 2nd or 3rd.
                            The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                            Vince Lombardi

                            "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                            • #29
                              Not sure Rodgers goes to the Raiders, he'd be in the same situation as their defense stinks and giving up draft picks for a quarterback is not gonna help. I think that the Seahawks, Jets & maybe one of the Florida teams is our best bet as they seem to be flush with cash and assets to trade. I would love to see a 1st and second for AR and the 1st be in next years draft the 2nd this year. That way the team sending the pick isn't hurt to deeply this year and we have 2 1st's if Love craps the bed next year. I would also look at trading Bak as maybe some team will hope to benefit from his experience.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                                Not sure Rodgers goes to the Raiders, he'd be in the same situation as their defense stinks and giving up draft picks for a quarterback is not gonna help. I think that the Seahawks, Jets & maybe one of the Florida teams is our best bet as they seem to be flush with cash and assets to trade. I would love to see a 1st and second for AR and the 1st be in next years draft the 2nd this year. That way the team sending the pick isn't hurt to deeply this year and we have 2 1st's if Love craps the bed next year. I would also look at trading Bak as maybe some team will hope to benefit from his experience.
                                I'm no cap dude, though I do wear hats, but a couple of smarter posters here have suggested the only way a trade can realistically happen with Rodgers is if it's after June 1st. Something about the cap.

                                But the advantage is that a team like, say, the Raiders or Seahogs or whomever can keep this year's first, and get Rodgers. I'm just fine with not getting a pick until the 2024 draft. At this point, if they can dump Rodgers for a second rounder after June 1, I'm down with that.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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