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What do you want FB to do with AROD in 2023---AND some thoughts

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  • #31
    Interesting little tidbit here. Nathaniel Hackett interviewing for the JETS OC position .......

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    • #32
      We would be fortunate to get a single 1st round pick for Rodgers at this point. That is why you should’ve traded him when his value was high last season.
      It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        I'm no cap dude, though I do wear hats, but a couple of smarter posters here have suggested the only way a trade can realistically happen with Rodgers is if it's after June 1st. Something about the cap.

        But the advantage is that a team like, say, the Raiders or Seahogs or whomever can keep this year's first, and get Rodgers. I'm just fine with not getting a pick until the 2024 draft. At this point, if they can dump Rodgers for a second rounder after June 1, I'm down with that.
        If they trade Rodgers before June 1, the cap hit would be about 40 million. If they trade him after June 1 the cap hits would be about 16 million in 2023 and 24 million in 2024. I have heard some claim that they could agree to the trade before the draft, get the draft pick this year, with the stipulation that the transaction wouldn't become official until after June 1. Not sure if that's true or not.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          If they trade Rodgers before June 1, the cap hit would be about 40 million. If they trade him after June 1 the cap hits would be about 16 million in 2023 and 24 million in 2024. I have heard some claim that they could agree to the trade before the draft, get the draft pick this year, with the stipulation that the transaction wouldn't become official until after June 1. Not sure if that's true or not.

          If the transaction is only official after June 1st you get no pick because the trade hasn't happened yet on draft day.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
            ^ "Ingratitude". LOL.

            What, pray tell, do I owe Karen Rodgers?

            so you cop to "stupidity" but not being an "ingrate"? Ok, I guess that's a fair plea bargain hahahaha.
            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              so you cop to "stupidity" but not being an "ingrate"? Ok, I guess that's a fair plea bargain hahahaha.
              While not the sharpest tool in the shed it was quite creative, his use of Karen instead of Erin. Really makes sense in a lot of ways.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                I’d love to trade him, Bahk and Cobb to the Raiders for a boatload of cash/picks.

                But I think and am fine if GB keeps him and trades Love for a 2nd or 3rd.
                What happened to all that Rodgers is the bomb shit-talk you kept preaching about fucker??

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                • #38
                  i got a new idea

                  trade both rodgers and love

                  we've managed to piss away the first 3 years of loves career, he has just one more year on his cheap rookie deal, then he either gets the 5 year option picked up around 20 million or more, or he'll get paid starter money (if he's a starter). either way you lose the big advantage of drafting that 1st round

                  so trade them both and try and draft a new rookie QB either this draft or next

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                    What happened to all that Rodgers is the bomb shit-talk you kept preaching about fucker??
                    I’ve been saying we should trade him for years. And I like AR both as a person and a QB. And whomever is slinging the rock for the Packers will get my support.
                    I’ve just said the amount of pissy whiners throwing him shade was nauseating.
                    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                    Vince Lombardi

                    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                      Not sure Rodgers goes to the Raiders, he'd be in the same situation as their defense stinks and giving up draft picks for a quarterback is not gonna help. I think that the Seahawks, Jets & maybe one of the Florida teams is our best bet as they seem to be flush with cash and assets to trade. I would love to see a 1st and second for AR and the 1st be in next years draft the 2nd this year. That way the team sending the pick isn't hurt to deeply this year and we have 2 1st's if Love craps the bed next year. I would also look at trading Bak as maybe some team will hope to benefit from his experience.
                      Except he isn't going to accept a trade to any of those teams. The best chances are SF if Purdy falls on his face tomorrow. LV if they are willing to give us anything.

                      Personally I would call the LV front office and try to get some 2024 picks for Rodgers. That way they can actually draft their QB of the future with their high pick this year and let him learn for 2 seasons. In the meantime they can capitalize on the roster they built to win now. Rodgers would be surrounded with weapons which would satisfy him. If you could get them to part with a couple picks for Bak that would be a bonus. This team needs to suffer the reset season right now. Work on a new kicker while the aspirations of an Owl are not high. Let the young talent improve into leaders. Stack up picks to continue to improve the roster. Anyone who is in their last 2 years needs to be traded or let walk. Anyone with limited upside needs to move on.

                      Rodgers, Bak, Jones, Crosby, Lazard, Preston, Amos. Move on from all of them. Trade if there is anything there, don't resign/cut where applicable. The lone exception would be that I would bring back Mercedes and draft 2 TEs this year. One early. Let them learn from a pros pro. Sure, we will be even worse than this year, but should be able to revamp and fix the cap quickly that way. This idea that we can take "one more shot" at it is a pipe dream. We tried that this season when I was saying the same thing last offseason. It didn't work as too many old guys played like old guys and too many young guys played central roles too soon.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        I'm no cap dude, though I do wear hats, but a couple of smarter posters here have suggested the only way a trade can realistically happen with Rodgers is if it's after June 1st. Something about the cap.

                        But the advantage is that a team like, say, the Raiders or Seahogs or whomever can keep this year's first, and get Rodgers. I'm just fine with not getting a pick until the 2024 draft. At this point, if they can dump Rodgers for a second rounder after June 1, I'm down with that.
                        Teams can make agreements effective june 1, even if it involves picks this year. But personally I'd take better capital a year later given where the Packers roster/cap is at right now anyway.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          i got a new idea

                          trade both rodgers and love

                          we've managed to piss away the first 3 years of loves career, he has just one more year on his cheap rookie deal, then he either gets the 5 year option picked up around 20 million or more, or he'll get paid starter money (if he's a starter). either way you lose the big advantage of drafting that 1st round

                          so trade them both and try and draft a new rookie QB either this draft or next
                          If you think he is good you let him start for you for a year. If you are hell bent on trading him, his value would be MUCH higher if he is even moderately successful. Right now I doubt you could get a 2nd given what you point out about his rookie deal nearing an end.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            If you think he is good you let him start for you for a year. If you are hell bent on trading him, his value would be MUCH higher if he is even moderately successful. Right now I doubt you could get a 2nd given what you point out about his rookie deal nearing an end.
                            Despite Rodgers's astronomical salary, trading him would be easier than trading Jordan Love - at least if you expect much at all in the way of return.

                            You make a good point - if a team was going to trade for Love, they'd have to be certain that he was going to be a good NFL QB, because you're going to pretty much have to pay him right away. And do other teams know that about him? Green Bay may not even fully know, and they've been watching him and working with him for three years now.

                            Trade Rodgers! Sounds like he may want out if Gutekunst refuses to bring back Cobb, Lewis, Lazard, and Bakh. I think Bakh is coming back, but maybe Gutes is not committed to that again. So here we are - again. Showdown time cuz Aaron Rodgers isn't happy with the personnel moves. Sigh.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Despite Rodgers's astronomical salary, trading him would be easier than trading Jordan Love - at least if you expect much at all in the way of return.

                              You make a good point - if a team was going to trade for Love, they'd have to be certain that he was going to be a good NFL QB, because you're going to pretty much have to pay him right away. And do other teams know that about him? Green Bay may not even fully know, and they've been watching him and working with him for three years now.

                              Trade Rodgers! Sounds like he may want out if Gutekunst refuses to bring back Cobb, Lewis, Lazard, and Bakh. I think Bakh is coming back, but maybe Gutes is not committed to that again. So here we are - again. Showdown time cuz Aaron Rodgers isn't happy with the personnel moves. Sigh.
                              Rodgers time as king has died. Long live the king, whomever that will be.

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                              • #45
                                I guess I am just good either way. Rodgers, Love, whatever. I don't think they're winning a super bowl and I don't really see how with Rodgers and pushing the can down the road they have the flexibility to go all in at this point. They don't have enough good young players so they need to rebuild. Is Goot the guy to rebuild? Shoot, IDK about that.

                                My guess as to what happens: Rodgers and Murphy go out hand in hand. Kissing. I'm serious, kissing aside.

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