What do you want FB to do with AROD in 2023---AND some thoughts

[NewsBruin]

lot of people linking him with the raiders because of davonte

are we sure adams wants him there? he is the one that decided to leave last year even though the packers reportedly offered him more money

A big part of Davonte choosing the Raiders was his buddy Carr. Now Carr isn't wanted in Vegas by the front office. Maybe Davonte wanted a different QB from Rodgers, but his bro isn't an option.

[jklowan]

He also stated that his family had never seen him play in GB and that was a big reason for going to the west, much easier fly in and out of LV than GB, plus lots of other shit to do in SIN City

[Fritz]

Tex, where you’re very wrong is when you say the contract is hard to trade. It’s the exact opposite. The contract was set up so trading is a great option. In no what what do ever does the contract prohibit a trade.

They knew what they were doing and the trade is coming this year.

I think a part of what people were talking about when they said the contract made a trade difficult is the amount the Packers would be on the hook for if they traded Rodgers. But maybe the front office is more willing to swallow that than they were last year. Who knows?

But we can hope. Except for Tex. We know what he wants.

[call_me_ishmael]

It will be really interesting to get the whole story with Adams down the road. I am sure there is more there than meets the eye. I personally do not believe the Packers offered him more player favorable terms than the Raiders did or he wouldn't have left.

[King Friday]

It will be really interesting to get the whole story with Adams down the road. I am sure there is more there than meets the eye. I personally do not believe the Packers offered him more player favorable terms than the Raiders did or he wouldn't have left.

Adams openly admitted that the Packers did offer more in terms of money, and I doubt the structure of the contract was all that different.

The Raiders are the team he idolized as a kid, and I’m guessing he prefers Vegas as a city to live in. Their QB was someone he played with in college. He figured Rodgers, at best, would be good for only another 2-3 years, while he was looking to play for 5+ more seasons. Adams leaving had nothing to do with the Packers front office trying to short change or screw over Adams.

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Rodgers back to playing the victim card. Says big companies are trying to vilify him

It’s never his fault that people are starting to take the drunken goggles off and seeing him as the self centered fuck he’s always been

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, where you’re very wrong is when you say the contract is hard to trade. It’s the exact opposite. The contract was set up so trading is a great option. In no what what do ever does the contract prohibit a trade.

They knew what they were doing and the trade is coming this year.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Packers get stung ridiculously hard against the cap if they trade him. THAT is what I'm talking about - not a no trade clause or bad situation for the other team.

[jklowan]

Rodgers does not have a no trade clause in his contract so he could be traded to a team as well. The timing of the option should give the Packers all the way until the end of training camp to move him. The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.

For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. If he retired they could split that as $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025 using a similar June 2nd date as mentioned above in the retirement option.

The acquiring team pays less to have Aaron Rodgers ON their team in 2023 and 2024 than when he is no longer there. Such is the weird contract of Aaron Rodgers. The overall cap cost would be about $94.2M for two years of work and four years of cap hits. That is about the overall going rate for quarterbacks these days, but the way it hits the cap is unique.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers back to playing the victim card. Says big companies are trying to vilify him

It’s never his fault that people are starting to take the drunken goggles off and seeing him as the self centered fuck he’s always been

He actually isn't wrong though. Big companies have backed away from him. I didn't see the entire interview, but I don't think he was whining "poor me, I'm a victim". He was simply saying that he took a stand and is paying a price. That isn't wrong.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers does not have a no trade clause in his contract so he could be traded to a team as well. The timing of the option should give the Packers all the way until the end of training camp to move him. The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.

For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. If he retired they could split that as $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025 using a similar June 2nd date as mentioned above in the retirement option.

The acquiring team pays less to have Aaron Rodgers ON their team in 2023 and 2024 than when he is no longer there. Such is the weird contract of Aaron Rodgers. The overall cap cost would be about $94.2M for two years of work and four years of cap hits. That is about the overall going rate for quarterbacks these days, but the way it hits the cap is unique.

So here is the deal though. Cap money is fungible. They could trade Rodgers tomorrow and take the entire 40m hit, then simply restructure/void other contracts to kick a portion of that into next year. Bottom line, they have to take some hits for probably 2 years anyway. 26/14 or 40/0 is almost irrelevant. They are over the cap both seasons anyway and will need to play games to get compliant. Whether they do that with Rodgers deal/trade or someone elses, the net results for the team are the same.

[run pMc]

They're going to need to restructure contracts anyway. Aaron Jones isn't coming back with a $20M cap hit next season. That will get redone. Kenny Clark probably will get his redone. And so on. Question is whether they have the room to restructure enough contracts to keep some of those players AND trade Rodgers and take the $40M cap hit.
Don't recall if they can trade him after June 1 and spread that hit across both years? Either way I'd expect the $59M bonus to get paid just before Game 1.

Unless Rodgers is undecided about coming back except for the money, and Murphy convinces him to retire with a $20M parting gift/job to be a GB ambassador or whatever in his retirement.

[RashanGary]

40M cap hit this year (spread out over two years if later than June 1) is far more manageable than the 68 next year and 99 the year after. It’s trade him now or never. And that’s why this is the time.

[RashanGary]

When Rodgers said it was a one year deal and then a two year deal, that is what he meant.

[King Friday]

When Rodgers said it was a one year deal and then a two year deal, that is what he meant.

I agree. The contract Rodgers signed last year gave Green Bay a one time out after the first season. I guess that is probably why Rodgers wanted to keep playing so much this season, because he was essentially playing on a one year deal as far as Green Bay was concerned. The Packers are confident enough in Love to move forward with him if necessary, but they rolled the dice to see if Rodgers could maintain his elite level of performance.

In the end, I don’t think Rodgers did enough last season to allow for him to continue to demand specific roster moves and concessions. I think that is becoming clear to Rodgers now, which is why even he is starting to put the foundation in place publicly for a potential departure from the Packers.

[Fritz]

I agree. The contract Rodgers signed last year gave Green Bay a one time out after the first season. I guess that is probably why Rodgers wanted to keep playing so much this season, because he was essentially playing on a one year deal as far as Green Bay was concerned. The Packers are confident enough in Love to move forward with him if necessary, but they rolled the dice to see if Rodgers could maintain his elite level of performance.

In the end, I don’t think Rodgers did enough last season to allow for him to continue to demand specific roster moves and concessions. I think that is becoming clear to Rodgers now, which is why even he is starting to put the foundation in place publicly for a potential departure from the Packers.

This is a good point, but even here there are a couple of ways to see this. First, as you do - he sees what might be coming, or what he might even want (I don't think he really knows quite yet) - and he is prepping everyone for that. He's a smart guy. But as smart as he is, he also may be saying all this about an amicable departure knowing he's not going anywhere, so he can afford to sound generous.

There may be a little bit of a game of chicken going on - Rodgers is going to keep hemming and hawing about retirement, waiting to see what the Guter is going to do about Bakh, Cobb, Lazard, Tonyan, and Lewis. (Makes me wonder - are any of those players on Rodgers's list "must haves"? Are there any he'd be okay without? Like, say, if they re-sign Cobb, can he live without them signing Tonyan? I suspect his good friends Cobb and Lewis are of key importance to Rodgers, but I don't know.)

I do think Rodgers loves all this cat-and-mouse stuff.