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  • People have bad memories that tend to fit their preconceived narrative. In 2021 (after he "went along for the ride") Brady tossed for 5300 yards and 43 TDs. Montana made the AFCC with KC after he left SF. Of course all of them got old eventually. As will Rodgers.

    Personally I think he can be near MVP if his heart is in it. I just think that time in his life has passed. A trade may invigorate him for a season ala Favre, but thats about it.
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    • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      I'll create a poll but would need more specifics.

      Is the Poll how many more years he will play, or quality of play ? That would be hard to do up

      I think he'll be greatly improved from this year. When we kept Joe Barry .......I just don't think we win a SB so I'm fine seeing him traded
      Here is my opinion for what its worth. If we trade him he has a really good year with a chip on his shoulder. If we keep him we get 2 solid years and he retires right as we lose Love.

      He can be decent for many years should he choose to play. He doesn't have the desire to be great anymore and only a "disrespectful" trade will bring out his best. After that he will regress to "decent" again and then retire.
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      • Oh sure. NOW he comes through in a big game. https://twitter.com/i/status/1622324857282109440
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        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Oh sure. NOW he comes through in a big game. https://twitter.com/i/status/1622324857282109440
          Fer cryin out loud
          I thought I had the scoop for once
          Ach....

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          • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            People have bad memories that tend to fit their preconceived narrative. In 2021 (after he "went along for the ride") Brady tossed for 5300 yards and 43 TDs. Montana made the AFCC with KC after he left SF. Of course all of them got old eventually. As will Rodgers.

            Personally I think he can be near MVP if his heart is in it. I just think that time in his life has passed. A trade may invigorate him for a season ala Favre, but thats about it.
            A lot of truth here. Why wouldn't his heart be in it? Literally nothing past, present, or future has indicated that. Your "that time in his life has passed" is kinda contradictory with what you just said a line earlier. The greatest of all the great things about Rodgers is his tendency to avoid interceptions. That is a mostly mental thing, not physical. Admittedly, he had a bad season mostly due to his thumb injury, but when he was generally healthy, he avoided picks as good as ever.

            A trade simply isn't gonna happen. I have no doubt that Rodgers would still be very effective if he was traded, but it just ain't gonna happen - and that high probability of effectiveness is yet another factor in why he won't be traded, the biggest factor being the contract.
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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              I'll create a poll but would need more specifics.

              Is the Poll how many more years he will play, or quality of play ? That would be hard to do up

              I think he'll be greatly improved from this year. When we kept Joe Barry .......I just don't think we win a SB so I'm fine seeing him traded
              I don't know how hard it is to make a poll, but maybe make about three of them, placating those poor misguided (I'm trying to avoid saying shitheads and haters, so whatever they would be called hahahaha) who think any more than 1 or maybe 2 is too much: "Will Rodgers play at a near MVP level for the Packers in 2023?" for one of them. "Will Rodgers play at a near MVP level for the Packers for two more seasons?" for the second. And "Will Rodgers play at a near MVP level for the Packers for 3 or more seasons?" Probably no more than a handful like me would say yes for the third one, but that would still only take him to within a year or two of Brady in '21.
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              • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                Here is my opinion for what its worth. If we trade him he has a really good year with a chip on his shoulder. If we keep him we get 2 solid years and he retires right as we lose Love.

                He can be decent for many years should he choose to play. He doesn't have the desire to be great anymore and only a "disrespectful" trade will bring out his best. After that he will regress to "decent" again and then retire.
                You just know he’s getting a fifth MVP if traded. I have zero doubts. That’s why I kinda hope they make him think he’s guilty dealt then don’t. The work will have already been put in. I have no doubt he’s busting ass on leg day already.

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                • ISN"T THE REAL QUESTION THE FOLLOWING ?

                  IF we bring AROD back, under the current leadership and personnell, will GB win a Super Bowl ?

                  To me, that question answers whether you bring AROD back, doesn't it ?
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                  • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                    You just know he’s getting a fifth MVP if traded. I have zero doubts. That’s why I kinda hope they make him think he’s guilty dealt then don’t. The work will have already been put in. I have no doubt he’s busting ass on leg day already.
                    Good.....cuz anything conditional would then become reality. Go Jets. Get that MVP.
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                    • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      ISN"T THE REAL QUESTION THE FOLLOWING ?

                      IF we bring AROD back, under the current leadership and personnell, will GB win a Super Bowl ?

                      To me, that question answers whether you bring AROD back, doesn't it ?
                      I think it does. Packers are 2-4 in the playoffs in the years Rodgers wins MVP. Who cares about another MVP award?
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                      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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                        • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          ISN"T THE REAL QUESTION THE FOLLOWING ?

                          IF we bring AROD back, under the current leadership and personnell, will GB win a Super Bowl ?

                          To me, that question answers whether you bring AROD back, doesn't it ?
                          Meh, I don't necessarily think it does. They're not gonna win a super bowl either way. The roster isn't that good and they have no money to improve. If they're gonna be mediocre at best and don't view Love as the guy long term, then what's the point of moving on now versus either A) trying to groom a QB again for a few years down the road, or B) tanking post Rodgers and drafting one high.

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                          • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                            Meh, I don't necessarily think it does. They're not gonna win a super bowl either way. The roster isn't that good and they have no money to improve. If they're gonna be mediocre at best and don't view Love as the guy long term, then what's the point of moving on now versus either A) trying to groom a QB again for a few years down the road, or B) tanking post Rodgers and drafting one high.
                            They're not going to find out if Love is the guy long term if they keep bringing Rodgers back. The Packers have learned as much about Love as they're going to learn by watching him in practice. He needs to play some meaningful games for them to determine if he's the guy. I guess you want to keep bringing Rodgers back because you figure winning 10 games is better than 8. That doesn't do much for me.
                            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              They're not going to find out if Love is the guy long term if they keep bringing Rodgers back. The Packers have learned as much about Love as they're going to learn by watching him in practice. He needs to play some meaningful games for them to determine if he's the guy. I guess you want to keep bringing Rodgers back because you figure winning 10 games is better than 8. That doesn't do much for me.
                              I agree, the actual time to trade him was last year, but that is water under the dam. Arod had a good run, I wish it would have resulted in more SBs, but that also is water under the dam. We need to start thinking about how to get to NEXT SB.

                              Trade his ass..

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                              • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                                People have bad memories that tend to fit their preconceived narrative. In 2021 (after he "went along for the ride") Brady tossed for 5300 yards and 43 TDs. Montana made the AFCC with KC after he left SF. Of course all of them got old eventually. As will Rodgers.

                                Personally I think he can be near MVP if his heart is in it. I just think that time in his life has passed. A trade may invigorate him for a season ala Favre, but thats about it.
                                Agree with most of this, although I would point out that Brady threw the ball 719 times to get those 5300 yards. GB's offense operates at one of the slowest paces in the league and they executed 1072 plays that season. There's no way Rodgers and his tendency to take the play clock to the last second will ever throw the ball close to 700 times in a year. They waste so many timeouts trying to get the play off now.

                                Brady threw over 700 times in his last two years.

                                A trade would definitely invigorate him. I also think if the OL has better health and they keep Hanson away from the lineup that will help Rodgers, as will a functioning thumb. I 100% agree his MVP days are over unless he makes major changes to his game, and he's a stubborn dude so I don't see it happening.

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