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Who Will Aaron Rodgers Play For In 2023 (Or Will He Play)?
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Actually I now realize about 57 million of the 74 million is already reflected in the Rams salary cap numbers, so it's possible the Rams could find a way to afford it. Still, if Rams were going to trade Stafford, they would have done it earlier when they could have avoided a lot of the dead money. It just wouldn't make sense to take that kind of a cap hit now just to get a 1st round draft pick.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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hahahahahahaha I didn't say I believed the media bastards. See, this just proves what I always say, the info dug up by ordinary posters in here (no offense, Joe, calling you ordinary hahahaha) is more reliable than what those agenda-driven shitheads of the media puke out.Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
Tex, put down the mainstream media and listen to us here. The Rams can’t trade Stafford and Rodgers is going to the Jets!
I'll turn that hypocrisy thing around on the damned haters in here. They loved and worshipped the media and swallowed their shit like gospel when they were stirring up trouble for the Packers about Rodgers, etc. Now when the media pukes start shitting on their parade, they point out the stupidity of it.
Yes, probably the haters are gonna get what they wish for, Rodgers gone and thus, the team down the drain for the foreseeable future. It ain't over 'til it's over, though.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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You're arguing with logic, that's not going to work. Opinion is unfortunately the new reality in our electronic world.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View PostTex, it's not hypocrisy to have a brain and decide for yourself which opinion you read makes the most sense.60% of the time it works every time.
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Yes, sad but true. Also helps to post links to the media spew, an unsourced "media report" is essentially a rumor. It's easy to shoot down a rumor.Originally posted by Spaulding View PostYou're arguing with logic, that's not going to work. Opinion is unfortunately the new reality in our electronic world.
Once the major sports outlets were all reporting the NYJ brass flew to California to talk to Rodgers, you knew something was happening and it was more than hearsay.
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That's why I'm pretty confident it will get done. Both sides are going to look really bad if this falls through.Originally posted by run pMc View PostAgree, but I think it gets done.
If it doesn't, imagine the scene in Florham Park, NY.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I appreciate Rodgers sentiment as he ages. He wants to see the team stick together and have loyalty to the old guys. He’d rather lose as a team than win as a team of mercenaries. It’s a wholesome sentiment.
But that’s not how it works. It’s America for one. Business and cutthroat is a part of our culture. And it’s the epitome of competitiveness within a competitive environment. Rodgers is getting even less support than Favre got. And to be fair, this is the guy who cut out his family, so the kumbya love message isn’t exactly resonating with very many people.
I agree with him that we should be more chill and more worried about love and loyalty than competition. But he’s not exactly the guy I believe when he trys to spread the good word.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Uh, you're saying the ya'all crowd/Rodgers haters do that? Yeah right hahahaha.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View PostTex, it's not hypocrisy to have a brain and decide for yourself which opinion you read makes the most sense.
Spaulding, that's true about opinions, even more so probably with the God damned media pukes than with us posters. And those rotten bastards actually get paid. LOGIC with regard to sports says winning is better than losing. That goes right over the heads of the idiots wanting to get rid of Rodgers.
red, Gutekunst has actually been a fairly decent GM, just with the one huge glaring fuck up, getting rid of the GOAT QB who still would be good for a few more years - the main thing dumbasses in here praise him for. Hopefully he WILL fuck up the trade, or the Jets themselves will fuck it up or whatever, cuz that's about the only thing that will save us all from misery and gloom of Packers losing for the foreseeable future.
As for "how it's gonna look" if it doesn't happen, fuck the God damned New Yorkers. As for Packers fans, outside of this forum where the Rodgers haters inexplicably dominate, it's a helluva lot closer to 50/50. Logic and good sense are actually still alive with a lot of people.
Bottom line, though, even I think it's gonna happen, and we're all gonna be following a losing team for a long while. I'd be very pleased to be wrong, but just look at how bad it has been every time Rodgers was out or playing hurt. THAT's what damn fools in here are asking for.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I don't hate Rodgers. I hate his contract, and how they've cooked the cap to make it worse.
This team was 4-8 at one point, before beating CHI, LAR, MIA and a possibly concussed Tua, and an aging MIN team some called frauds. They were not good for most of the year with Rodgers. I'm not sure he'd be able to win 10 games for GB next year... is the roster better?
If you believe his performance on McAfee, he was 90% sure he was retiring... so GB would be rebuilding/retooling/whatever pretty soon either way. Coming back to GB for ONE MORE YEAR with that contract and the future cap hits would make that process much harder and take at least a year longer. That they could trade him means they can start sooner, figure out if Jordan Love is part of that process, and get some future cap space/draft picks in trade. If he was 90% sure he was done this year, what percent will he be next year?
The goal for Gute, MLF and the rest of the team is to win the Super Bowl. Love might not be able to do that, but Rodgers wasn't going to this year.
Rodgers is one of the all-time Packer greats, and he's made more than a few 'wow' throws I'll never forget. He helped GB win a SB and a lot of other games along the way, and I certainly appreciate that (and all the years of Bear domination) but it's time to turn the page.
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I agree, runPMC. Rodgers had two MVP years and was hell bent on getting a contract while the iron was hot last year.
The Packers caved, hoping plan B was that the contract is still tradable with how they structured it so the next team would pay some of the big bonuses.
Because Aaron got the contract at the perfect time for him, and the Packers really wanted him back for one more year, they caved and now the contract isn’t so desirable for trade partner.
We might have to take a 2nd for him. I’m sure they’re trying to finagle that 13th pick, but with the contract, that might be unreasonable. Both sides have leverage. It’s time to move on. Hopefully it happens soon. I’d be fine with the 43rd pick and having his bad attitude and bad contract off our books and seeing what Love can do.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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That first round swap is about the equivalent of a 4th and 5th round pickOriginally posted by RashanGary View PostMaybe flip our 15 for their 13 and get the 43rd pick.
Blah IMO
But it do like the idea of the first round swap being in there somewhere if we aren’t gonna get the thing outright
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