CMI and runpMc, obviously I'm against trading Rodgers in general, but if it does happen, that idea of '25 and '26 first rounders is good. Is it bad for the Jets? Who knows; Who cares. I think Rodgers would still be propelling them to greatness by then if they made the trade, but a lot of people don't think so, so who knows.
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The team that has your contract has your rights if you decide to come back.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThis line doesn't seem right, from that article Bobblehead posted: " He may even just decide to retire, then unretire and join the Jets anway, leaving them with nothing." I thought players couldn't do that, or else they'd all retire when they wanted to go somewhere else, then just unretire. That doesn't seem right. I thought even if a player retires, he's got to be away for at least one season before he is no longer under obligation to his old team.
This would be a whole 'nother animal if another team was interested, but it appears no one is - everyone's either signed someone already or is intending to draft a QB in the top ten or so this year. So the Packers don't have much leverage. Sure, Rodgers could retire, but then the Packers get nothing, absolutely nothing, for him (for those of you who want Gutes to play hardball, consider this possibility). And sure, the Jets don't have a QB, but isn't Matt Stafford still dangling out there, and if the Rams really, really sucked it up, cap-wise, couldn't they unload him on the Jets? Then the Packers are left holding the bag. And what if Rodgers then says he still wants to play football? Then you've got that goof-ass situation where Brent Favre was threatening to show up in Green Bay's camp.
This is fugged up. As I and a couple of others said last offseason, he should've been traded back then. Then you'd have had the picks, you'd have had Love with a year under his belt as a starter, and you'd know where you stand. I get why the team did not trade Rodgers - try for that ring one more time - but they "ran it back" to about the eighteen yard line. It didn't work out.
What BF did, that I still find unbelievable, is he told the Jets GM and owner that he was done with football. Was not going to play another down. Asked them to rip up his contract. And then they did.
At that point BF was a free agent if he wanted back into the NFL since he had no contract.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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It sure sounds like Rodgers bailed on Green Bay per Gute's quotes.
"Via Matt Schneidman of TheAthletic.com, G.M. Brian Gutekunst told reporters at the league meeting in Arizona that the team tried to contact Aaron Rodgers “many times” during the offseason to discuss how he fits in the team’s future. Rodgers, according to Gutekunst, never responded."
“Our inability to reach him or for him to respond in any way,” Gutekunst said. “I think at that point we just kind of had to — I had to do my job and reach out and understanding that a trade could be possible.”
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so rodgers has been caught in a few more lies, guy is just a flat out douchebag
heres a story about what ras is talking about
Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst provided a new and significantly different timeline of events that led up to Aaron Rodgers requesting a trade to the New York Jets. To hear Rodgers tell the story, the Packers kept the door open for Rodgers in terms of…
heres a tweet with the original video
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I think Rodgers decided after their initial meeting that he was going to move on. His plan then was to make it look like the divorce was the Packers idea. So he didn't return their calls knowing they would have to start talking to teams. Then act shocked and hurt at the fact that they were doing that.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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yup, play the victim card, like he usually doesOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostI think Rodgers decided after their initial meeting that he was going to move on. His plan then was to make it look like the divorce was the Packers idea. So he didn't return their calls knowing they would have to start talking to teams. Then act shocked and hurt at the fact that they were doing that.
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Originally posted by red View Postso rodgers has been caught in a few more lies, guy is just a flat out douchebag
heres a story about what ras is talking about
Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst provided a new and significantly different timeline of events that led up to Aaron Rodgers requesting a trade to the New York Jets. To hear Rodgers tell the story, the Packers kept the door open for Rodgers in terms of…
heres a tweet with the original video
https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/s...80212155772930
I suspect that, as is most often the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I think Joe is mostly right - in the initial sit-down with Rodgers, Guter likely let it be known that the Packers were going to move on from some guys ("some guys" being Cobb and Lewis, and probably Lazard and Tonyan), but that if Rodgers wanted to come back, they'd like him back and would figure out what to do with Love. Rodgers probably didn't say much - often when you're negotiating and you get a proposal you don't like, you just don't say much - but was likely slightly offended. So off he went to ponder.
Being the mostly passive-aggressive guy he is, when the Packers were calling and checking in, he didn't pick up. I am sure he did not like that the new sway he'd held the year before - getting Cobb back, Lewis back - was gone.
On the other hand, I don't buy at all that when Guters said he "had to do my job" it didn't involve shopping Rodgers. Calling GM's and asking if anyone would be interested in Rodgers should he become available is doing his job but it IS also shopping Rodgers. And Guter made it sound like after trying to contact Rodgers a bunch of times, he called Rodgers's agents and they got back to him relaying the message that he wanted to play for the Jets. The Jets? Out of nowhere, Rodgers just pulled the Jets out of his ass? Not a west coast team, not Tennessee where he owns property? Not a warm-weather location? The Jets? No, it's the Jets because that's who'd expressed an interest to Guter, and Rodgers found that out.
Ultimately, I think it comes down to what Joe has more-or-less said: Rodgers did not like the idea of losing his say on certain parts of the roster, so he sulked, and when he sulked, the Packers decided okay, we're done now. I suspect that the front office were almost looking for an excuse to move on, though.
So now both sides can play the blame game. But it's probably both sides. The relationship just got old, like some do."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I wondered about that too, Fritz…. The timeline isn’t exactly clear there. At some point Rodgers did want to play for the Jets, but that appeared to be after the Packers did their job and shopped him.
But Hackett is there. Maybe he did want to play for the Jets. Maybe Hackett had talked to him and hinted that they’d take him. It’s tampering, but not if you subtly suggest something that you can claim you never suggested when asked about it.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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It’s kind of funny to listen to comments from Jets brass lately. They don’t have Rodgers, but they keep insisting Rodgers is plan A and they’re not exploring plan B. They’ve brought in Lazard. They’re kissing his ass to high heaven even though their devotion to him in the public eye hurts their leverage.
I was always thinking it was a 2nd round pick with a conditional that could go up to a 1st in future drafts. But as the Jets say more, I’m thinking we have a shot at those two 2nds plus conditionals.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Saw Charles Robinson reporting that proposed trade comp is a 2023 R2 and a 2024 R2 that could become a R1 under certain conditions, but the NYJ want a pick back if AR only plays one year. Giving a pick back seems to be the sticking point.
Re: Rodgers and Gute: Fritz, you're probably not far off. The truth is usually in the middle of the other two stories. Both sides are going to want to control the message and I'm confident Rodgers will have a uninterrupted pulpit on McAfee to respond.
I think they were just tired of him, and felt it was time to turn the page.
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I don't blame Guter for not wanting to structure a deal that includes giving a pick back if Rodgers retires after one year. Because part of the reason you're getting rid of Rodgers is to get out from under all this off-season drama of will-he-or-won't he, and if you agree that you give back a pick if Rodgers retires after a year, then you're right back on the rollercoaster. Maybe pick up more of Rodgers's contract so the Jets get relief that way and you keep that 2024 second. Or if Rodgers retires, make the second a third. But really, one round two pick for Rodgers for one year? That's super cheap.
But if it's all they really can get, well, take it and move on."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by red View Postso rodgers has been caught in a few more lies, guy is just a flat out douchebag
heres a story about what ras is talking about
Green Bay Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst provided a new and significantly different timeline of events that led up to Aaron Rodgers requesting a trade to the New York Jets. To hear Rodgers tell the story, the Packers kept the door open for Rodgers in terms of…
heres a tweet with the original video
https://twitter.com/mattschneidman/s...80212155772930
What a shitbagTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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