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What is the Main Reason GB has not won a Super Bowl in the past 12 years ?

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  • #76
    Keeping Aaron Rodgers, yes, THAT will be the thing that Gutekunst will be remembered for - that glorious contract that will keep Rodgers in Green Bay for the rest of his career and make sure that career goes on at least a couple more years. Love is irrelevant - a drafting mistake probably, but not one that will mean much one way or the other long term. Good point that Packer drafting has been dampened over the years by the outstanding records that the team has had most years. I for one wouldn't want that any other way. Beyond that dampening from the great records, it's primarily about LUCK - who falls to you, who develops in a good way, who gets injured, etc.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    • #77
      It is about luck but there are clearly some teams better at evaluating players than others. Baltimore is the first one that comes to mind. Ozzie and now DeCosta really know how to draft.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        It is about luck but there are clearly some teams better at evaluating players than others. Baltimore is the first one that comes to mind. Ozzie and now DeCosta really know how to draft.
        Yet they've missed the playoffs 5 of the last 10 years and have won a total of 2 playoff games in that time. Perhaps there's a tendency to overrate how other teams have done in relation to the Packers?
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #79
          I found this on the internet:

          "Pro Football Debate
          4d
          ·
          Aaron Rodgers has called out all the news circulating about him fake.
          He never said he wants out of Green Bay and he never told his agent he prefers the Raiders to name some of the big things said.
          He even called out Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport.Over the years they’ve been considered the NFLS most trust worthy insiders.
          “I have no problem with Ian Rapoport…Schefter…I think they’re really good at their jobs. When it comes to me, they don’t know (expletive). They really don’t. They don’t have people in my inner circle who are sources, I can promise you that. And anybody who would talk to them is not in my inner circle. It’s that simple.” - Aaron Rodgers
          - Lukas"

          I don't know who this Lukas is, but this makes infinite sense.
          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            I found this on the internet:

            "Pro Football Debate
            4d
            ·
            Aaron Rodgers has called out all the news circulating about him fake.
            He never said he wants out of Green Bay and he never told his agent he prefers the Raiders to name some of the big things said.
            He even called out Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport.Over the years they’ve been considered the NFLS most trust worthy insiders.
            “I have no problem with Ian Rapoport…Schefter…I think they’re really good at their jobs. When it comes to me, they don’t know (expletive). They really don’t. They don’t have people in my inner circle who are sources, I can promise you that. And anybody who would talk to them is not in my inner circle. It’s that simple.” - Aaron Rodgers
            - Lukas"

            I don't know who this Lukas is, but this makes infinite sense.
            So you trust a not known media puke asshole that supports your point over all of the known media puke assholes that don't support your point.

            Good to know and not a surprise.
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #81
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              I found this on the internet:

              "Pro Football Debate
              4d
              ·
              Aaron Rodgers has called out all the news circulating about him fake.
              He never said he wants out of Green Bay and he never told his agent he prefers the Raiders to name some of the big things said.
              He even called out Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport.Over the years they’ve been considered the NFLS most trust worthy insiders.
              “I have no problem with Ian Rapoport…Schefter…I think they’re really good at their jobs. When it comes to me, they don’t know (expletive). They really don’t. They don’t have people in my inner circle who are sources, I can promise you that. And anybody who would talk to them is not in my inner circle. It’s that simple.” - Aaron Rodgers
              - Lukas"

              I don't know who this Lukas is, but this makes infinite sense.
              He's a goodamn media puke, Tex. You can't believe a word of their bullshit, those goddamn media pukes.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #82
                It’s called hypocrisy fellas

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  He's a goodamn media puke, Tex. You can't believe a word of their bullshit, those goddamn media pukes.
                  Undoubtedly he is. Directly quoting Rodgers makes this different, although I suppose he's misquoting him the same as the shitheads do. What's funny/ironic/whatever is that the haters and fools in here choose to believe the irrational negative shit and disregard this quote which is as Mr. Spaak would say, eminently logical.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    He's a goodamn media puke, Tex. You can't believe a word of their bullshit, those goddamn media pukes.


                    Is Rodgers also a media whore, or just his GD tool every Tuesday who throws him the softballs while giving him a handie ?
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                      None of those are luck. Those are a mix of bad players and bad coaching. Bostik was told to block a guy and let the good hands guy behind him get the ball. He didn't. King and others needed to play the way the refs call the game. They study the refs every week, and know the tendencies. Blocked punt and the rest of the special ed teams that year was also on the coach and players. Talented and well coached teams create their own luck.
                      agree with this more than the luck
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                        A 9-10 win team is a far stretch from "worst drafting GM in the league"

                        Perosnally I never said worst drafting GM. I think he's fine. There are far greater issues than Gutebag IMO
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #87
                          Bretsky, I really think Mark Murphy should've been one of the choices in this poll.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #88
                            TT brought in two HOF players (Rodgers and Woodson.) It looks like Gute is on pace for zero. It’s not going to work out without great players. Gute is to blame.

                            Alexander is his best pickup and he’s on the level of Thompsons 3rd best (clay matthews)



                            Gute needs to do better or we lose.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                              TT brought in two HOF players (Rodgers and Woodson.) It looks like Gute is on pace for zero. It’s not going to work out without great players. Gute is to blame.

                              Alexander is his best pickup and he’s on the level of Thompsons 3rd best (clay matthews)



                              Gute needs to do better or we lose.
                              He actually brought in three. Peppers made the 2014 team significantly better. And Nick da Pick was a special, special dude. And Bakhtiari.

                              Gooter has room for improvement but I would say his hit rate is pretty darn good for top picks.

                              I personally believe the reason they haven’t won another Super Bowl in this late stage of Rodgers career is largely him not getting it done in the big game. He did play well enough to win it in 2014 though.

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                              • #90

                                only about 8% of draft picks are players that really make much of a difference beyond replacement value, and only about 30% see much playing time or make a significant contribution to the team.
                                Gute's not awful, he's not Executive of the Year either. He's done ok.
                                He takes more risks/bigger swings than TT did and that includes FA spending.

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