How long does Gutey get?

[MadtownPacker]

After this season and how his picks are looking great he has a 5 year window.

[MadtownPacker]

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Gute should get a extra year just for this alone.

[RashanGary]

After this season and how his picks are looking great he has a 5 year window.

I count 14 good players in two drafts. I’ve never seen that. I guess if you csnt have a QB on a rookie deal, 14 good players on rookie deals is good too.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think there is no way they cut Aaron Jones. He is such a dynamic player. He will be back. I don't think he's fallen off at all. Why would they let an all-pro type guy go even if he is getting up there and injured a bit? He is a special player, just pay him appropriately.

[RashanGary]

I think there is no way they cut Aaron Jones. He is such a dynamic player. He will be back. I don't think he's fallen off at all. Why would they let an all-pro type guy go even if he is getting up there and injured a bit? He is a special player, just pay him appropriately.

Agree. Jones and Preston.

[run pMc]

I think they will do everything they can to keep both. I also think they will lean heavily into the draft for the OL and at RB to improve the run game. Keeping Jones would benefit them since he'd be a great mentor but also would be able to play early while the rookies figured out the offense and how to pass protect. I'd rather they keep Jones and draft two good backs than keep Dillon or Taylor.

Preston has one less sack than Gary, and he's been on a tear in recent weeks. He's been really great for the young EDGE players from what I've heard as well. I think he's still got something in the tank.

[RashanGary]

I think Preston plays a really good game between the ears. When he came out, he was an ELITE athlete for the position. Big, long, explosive, fast… He can decline physically and still be an NFL caliber athlete.

I cant find a stat that shows 4th quarter sacks, or sacks in key moments. I wish someone charted that, because I think Preston waits and waits on his best pass rush. He keeps setting it up and setting it up. Because that guy has a knack for bursting right past LTs at the best possible time right when it matters most. His sacks seem to be the game changing type more often than not.

[RashanGary]

I remember Reggie being like that. I was a teen ager and didn’t know shit, but I remember he was quiet for a bit and then layed down the damn hammer when it really matter most.

[Fritz]

I'm on board with the above priorities - keep Jones and Smith around next year. I just love Smith. He can set an edge and play the run, but dammit, he can get after the QB, especially, as RashanGary points out, in key situations. And Jones - I love to watch him run. He's got vision. Vision. He's a good, good cutback runner. Sure, draft a couple of RB's, but let them learn from the master next year.

And with injuries in the NFL, I doubt you're going to hamper Engabare's or Van Ness's development by keeping Smith around one more year. There'll be enough snaps for everyone.

We are in tune on those two guys.

And yes, I can see no reason to keep Dillon. Great guy, but he'll have to go be the mayor of someone else's county.

Boy, it sure looks like Guter hit it out of the park with the Love pick (didn't he even trade up to get him? I can't remember), with his last two drafts, and with the Rodgers trade. So I'd say he's probably getting free BJ's all over Green Bay right now. But you know how quickly public opinion can change - so he'd better take advantage of those while he can.

And Brestsky - you were vocal about the Pack passing on Tee Higgins to take Love. How you feeling about that now?

[RashanGary]

LVN - 5 sacks

Luke Musgrave - 352 yards, 1 TD

Jayden Reed - 912 total yards, 10 total TDs

Tucker Kraft - 355 yards, 2 TDs

Tay Wicks - 581 yards, 4 TDs

Karl Brooks - 4 sacks, 25 pressures

Carrington Valentine - 12 starts, 5 PBU

Gutey cooked

That’s 7 guys from one draft. I’ve never seen that.


Quay
Wyatt
Watson
Rhyan (let’s count him as a half)
Doubs
Tom
Enagbare (let’s count him has a half)
Rasheed


Another 7 last year. 14 in two years. I’ve never seen it

[Fritz]

That's a large part of the reason they're in the playoffs already.

That, and Guter (finally) trading Rodgers away and clearing the decks of whatever bile there seemed to be. The team just looked grim all the time - not a lot of fun being had, even when they were winning.

And the coaches, developing these young players. Though I'm disappointed with Wyatt - I thought he'd be much better than he has.

[RashanGary]

That's a large part of the reason they're in the playoffs already.

That, and Guter (finally) trading Rodgers away and clearing the decks of whatever bile there seemed to be. The team just looked grim all the time - not a lot of fun being had, even when they were winning.

And the coaches, developing these young players. Though I'm disappointed with Wyatt - I thought he'd be much better than he has.

Not to be a butt-hole, but I just saw this…. I don’t think he plays nearly the snaps of the guys he’s bunched with and doesn’t see nearly the doubles. Further, his pressures, just off impression don’t seem to really be noticed. But……

https://x.com/light_2610/status/1745656916712329527?s=46&t=nQImf8h3Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

[bobblehead]

Not to be a butt-hole, but I just saw this…. I don’t think he plays nearly the snaps of the guys he’s bunched with and doesn’t see nearly the doubles. Further, his pressures, just off impression don’t seem to really be noticed. But……

https://x.com/light_2610/status/1745...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

My impression has been that Wyatt doesn't get enough credit or snaps. Maybe he blows vs. the run. But then so did most of the DL for the first 10 weeks.

[Joemailman]

Wyatt is good at creating pressure. However, he hasn't been able to turn pressure into QB hits and sacks consistently. He had the highest missed tackle % among front seven guys on the Packers. He needs to play a little more in control. He's close to being really good.

[RashanGary]

I know we all know the limitations of PFF grades, but they’re usually pretty reasonable.

Lukas Van Ness a respectable 64 pff grade for a rookie and 4 sacks, another respectable number for a rookie. Honestly, that being his starting point, it gives him pretty good odds to be a Rashan Gary level player. Maybe a little worse and maybe a little better.

Karl Brooks has been an absolute surprise coming in as a 23 year old 6th round rookie. He has an average starter PFF grade in his first year (67) to go along with 4 memorable sacks.

Devonte Wyatt is a little older for a 2nd year player (25) so maybe his upside isn’t much higher, but he posted an average starter PFF grade of 63 to go along with 5.5 sacks from the interior. He probably doesn’t see many doubles and he doesn’t play a ton of snaps so he’s fresh and can make those splash plays. Regardless, he’s a starting level player inside.

TJ Slaton has a respectable 65 PFF grade. I don’t care what his sack numbers are, not even gonna look. He’s a non factor as a pass rusher. But he’s a snap eater who has a respectable game on early downs and short yardage.

Enagbare has 5 sacks in two years from the edge position, which isn’t very good. He posts a respectable 65 pff grade. When you cross check his grade with the impression watching him, he does seem active and does a pretty good job being a bit of a hassle in the run game and as a pass rusher. It’s nice to have a guy who’s not a total dud to rest up the top 3.


You add the 5 young guys to Clark and Gary and it’s been a respectable front this year with potential to be pretty darn good next year. Preston has one more year of quality play. And you know what, I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s got 2 or 3.

If we get best case scenario growth from LVN and Brooks, we probably have a top 5 front next season.