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Some of the pundits are bonkers stupid. Vinnie Iyer downgraded the draft because Gute didn't take an OL. I don't think he even knows who is on the team now that Rodgers is gone -- GB has 13 OL on the roster and the OL depth in the draft was shallow.
I don't pay a lot of attention to draft grades the weekend after it happens, you can't tell anything until you see these guys play in the pros for a while, and after 2-3 years you know if they will pan out and it's a good draft.
It's clickbait for those who need instant gratification.
Better off to go look at some games of the players picked and form your own opinion.
I will say GB had a couple of areas of serious need, and the draft depth lined up nicely with those needs. Gute was shopping where the selection was the best, so that was good. He also did an ok job reading the board and when runs on positions were happening and struck before he felt the talents dropped down a tier. If that gets him a good next-day grade from some national writer who casually tracks the team, I guess that's nice.
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JK,Originally posted by jklowan View PostPeople not liking this pick should do side by side film on him and antonio brown. Same size, speed and toughness.
I just watched side-by-side film as you suggested in response to TPB's post and his final line of that post, and I can see very little similarity between Antonio Brown and Anders Carlson. Two totally different players.
Run mentioned something that gets under my skin, too - for me, not so much about the draft, as I don't follow it closely, as with announcers of games: how little they know about the teams they're covering. It's frustrating when I know more about the Packers' roster than the announcers doing the game. Do your homework, people."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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No one is coming anywhere near your position on the media.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostSounds like some of ya'all are coming around to what I've always been saying about much of the media hahahaha.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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I rarely like a Green Bay draft but I did like this one. We had a shithole of gaps in our roster and drafted athletes in volume to fill our holes and get faster. I would give gutebag a high grade this year and that’s rare for meOriginally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostDoes this give you hope? They drafted where they mostly had holes and Pundits love that shit.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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You are kidding right ? LolOriginally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostSounds like some of ya'all are coming around to what I've always been saying about much of the media hahahaha.
At least we don’t have to listen to that god dam media whore Kurt out his falsities and create drama every Tuesday anymore
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Yeah! They’re all idiots! Horrible human beings! They’re not even really human! Every single one!Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI don’t like journalists very much either. They’re total ass holes and they say they’re just doing their job. Well, find a job where it’s not your responsibility to be a piece of shit then. Quit or be decent.
Yeah, that’s it. Sure.
Very thoughtful. Nuanced."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I’ll credit the packers.com reporters for doing good. It’s their job to show support when guys make a mistake of have a hard time. The great majority of the rest just love to kick people when they’re down and I don’t support it at all.Originally posted by Fritz View PostYeah! They’re all idiots! Horrible human beings! They’re not even really human! Every single one!
Yeah, that’s it. Sure.
Very thoughtful. Nuanced.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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If it's deserved and not personal, it's fair game. It's certainly better than what people say about players out on Twitter.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostI’m cool with people here talking shit about players. The guys aren’t going to see it, most likely. It’s not hurtful. But to publicly rip someone who’s doing their best. I don’t like that, at all. It’s a grimy job. Find another profession.
I agree media will write more of what is consumed - that's why you have "listicles" and opinion pieces that are basically hot-take clickbait. Generally I avoid that stuff because that's what it is. From what I've seen with JSO, Pete Dougherty tends to write opinion pieces, Silverstein writes the stories. As for Packers.com reports, I like Spofford and WesHod but they are employees of the Green Bay Packers, so they are going to give very measured takes. They are usually fair but I take it with a grain of salt.
The national writers tend to get scoops from the agent or star player because it gets national exposure which is beneficial to them, so that can be informative but otherwise those guys are national writers and don't know or follow the team so their takes are usually off (see my comment earlier re: Vinny Iyer).
I don't think media or journalists are garbage, but a few of them are bad. To me, that's like saying cops or teachers are bad. They serve a function.
If you know who the bad ones are, avoid them. If people didn't give them clicks they'd go away.
And like I said, next-day draft grades are dumb.
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