OFFICIAL AARON RODGERS THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Fosco33]

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[Teamcheez1]

Tried that and it didn’t work. Doesn’t seem like it’s possible from a phone. Need an upgrade to the functionality of this forum.

This should be as easy as point and click.

[bobblehead]

Those all seem related. He got the ball out faster because he didn't trust the line to hold the rush as much as in GB (given 2023, that was reasonable). That meant less time to get things downfield, so fewer attempts. Feeling every sack feeds back on this, especially since 25 of the 40 sacks were on attempts where he held the ball more than 2.5 seconds.

He has also largely lost the athleticism to escape pressure. He is changing his game. Brady never had mobility, and he was notorious for taking care of his health. Those 2 factors allowed him to be effective longer.

[MadtownPacker]

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Or you could just listen to dumbasses that havent figured it out in almost twenty years.

[Fritz]

I used to know how, but now it's not working. Might not be you. Might be the machinery of Packerrats.

[Teamcheez1]

I tried to post a photo. Have never figured out how to do it. Oh well.

[MadScientist]

An article on a Steelers website stated that in 2024 Rodgers was 25/63 on throws targeted at 20 yards or more. Two things stand out: the completion percentage is very poor and the number of deep targets relative to overall passing attempts was quite low.

Also, contrary to what his history was in GB, he got the ball out quickly. Of 584 attempts, 363 were thrown in 2.5 seconds or less. He did not hold onto the ball like he did with the Packers where year after year his average time from snap to release was among the longest, if not the very longest.

It was also remarked that Rodgers seemed to show the effects of every sack.

Like most old QBs, as someone said, he is a QB you can win with, not one you win because of.

Those all seem related. He got the ball out faster because he didn't trust the line to hold the rush as much as in GB (given 2023, that was reasonable). That meant less time to get things downfield, so fewer attempts. Feeling every sack feeds back on this, especially since 25 of the 40 sacks were on attempts where he held the ball more than 2.5 seconds.

[Patler]

Either way, I don't think Rodgers has the physical tools any more to be great or even consistently really good.Once he lost his legs he was not the same player. Like any of them. He'll flash the occasional brilliant throw, but I don't think he's going to have some big career renaissance. That and having a deeper threat guy like Metcalf as your main weapon seems like a weird way to approach the end of the Rodgers era.

An article on a Steelers website stated that in 2024 Rodgers was 25/63 on throws targeted at 20 yards or more. Two things stand out: the completion percentage is very poor and the number of deep targets relative to overall passing attempts was quite low.

Also, contrary to what his history was in GB, he got the ball out quickly. Of 584 attempts, 363 were thrown in 2.5 seconds or less. He did not hold onto the ball like he did with the Packers where year after year his average time from snap to release was among the longest, if not the very longest.

It was also remarked that Rodgers seemed to show the effects of every sack.

Like most old QBs, as someone said, he is a QB you can win with, not one you win because of.

[Fritz]

One question is whether Mike Tomlin is that tough, respected guy who can bend Aaron to the will of the team, or will Tomlin be the pal, the old colleague, and let Rodgers be the worst version of himself?

Either way, I don't think Rodgers has the physical tools any more to be great or even consistently really good.Once he lost his legs he was not the same player. Like any of them. He'll flash the occasional brilliant throw, but I don't think he's going to have some big career renaissance. That and having a deeper threat guy like Metcalf as your main weapon seems like a weird way to approach the end of the Rodgers era.

And let's see if Tomlin can ever get Rodgers to throw into the middle of the field.

[NewsBruin]

What has changed is his performance on the field. He's no longer a player who can drag a team to the playoffs like he did a few times with McCarthy. He's a player you win with, not win because of. He's tettering into player who hurts you because of his declining athleticism and stubbornness to only play his way.

The thing from the end of his Packers run is that he's not the guy who's going to keep the lowest guy on his sideline in the game. The team gets down a few touchdowns, he's going to get wistful and reflective and equanimitous and either grumpy or Putting This Beautiful Mystery Called Life Into Its Proper Perspective.

I'm not a big "unwritten rules" guy; y'all have certainly read my disdain for shackling young athletes with old people's expectations, but when you're making the most money on the team and you have the perspective of seeing youngsters shuffled in and out of their pro career, you should expect yourself to keep your teammates knowing you believe in them and appreciate their effort.

If you can get Aa-ron to forget that chip on his shoulder, you can take him out of the game.

[Fosco33]

Apparently there’s a Mrs Rodgers now

[smuggler]

The Jets receivers didn't do Rodgers any favors last season - Davante was still getting settled in by the time the season ended, and he still produced at an average level. I'm not really familiar with what the Steelers have aside from Metcalf and Friermuth, but those two guys seem like an upgrade from a receiving perspective and the offensive line situation is probably a push. If his body is the same as 2024, his numbers should improve.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.

I guess time will tell who is right. Butte can still play at a high level, I reckon.

And the Butte-Metcalf combo is gonna be awesome. Some incompetent GM just had to take Savage and a fucking center over Metcalf on a team with its #1 rock catcher on his way out and a bunch of no names wide outs.

[bobblehead]

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.

Age takes no prisoners. In fantasy baseball I refuse to draft a player over 32. Its amazing how quickly these guys lose it right about there. For a QB its more like 37-38, but I never draft a RB over 30 or a WR over 32. It serves me well. Go look at the leaders for points league baseball and you might find 3 guys in the top 40 that are 33 and older. Judge would be one, he's a freak and holding on a bit longer. But take a look at guys who are 33/34 and dropped off. Salvador Perez, Semien, Christian Walker. Even Betts and Harper are showing signs of decline.

[MadScientist]

There’s a big difference between mobility and footwork. Pretty sure Brady and Bert Favor can still sling a rock pretty far since their footworks should still be fundamentally sound. Ditto, Butte. Butte just can’t run like he did in the heyday.

Payton Manning and Dree Brees can’t throw rocks anymore due largely to neck/shoulder injuries, and both don’t have a history of leg injuries.

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.