DAVID BACKTIARI----MORE DRAMA------IS IT REAL ????

[RashanGary]

Yeah bobble. But if he can’t pass a physical, they have to pay him his base. Just don’t know if that counts on the cap.

[RashanGary]

TD is saying it doesn’t count on the cap, but my cap expert won’t weigh in and I haven’t seen enough of TDs cap expertise to know for sure if he’s 100

[bobblehead]

Yeah bobble. But if he can’t pass a physical, they have to pay him his base. Just don’t know if that counts on the cap.

I don't think this is the case. The season he was injured in they would have had to pay the base. But if they waive him this off season he is shit out of luck, unless I'm wrong or it changed. NFL contracts are not locked in all the way thru under any circumstances.

[RashanGary]

I don't think this is the case. The season he was injured in they would have had to pay the base. But if they waive him this off season he is shit out of luck, unless I'm wrong or it changed. NFL contracts are not locked in all the way thru under any circumstances.

Ken Ingalls on Twitter is pretty knowledgeable. He’s right about 100% of the time. He says Bakh can get big parts of his base through injury grievance if we cut him injured next year.

[sharpe1027]

Injury grievance is only for the same season the injury occurs.

[sharpe1027]

He can qualify for an Injury Protection Benefit for up to two years. It would pay out the guaranteed portion (not necessarily the same as the reported number due to complexity of the contract), but I think the cap hit is capped at less than $2M. The rest is not counted against the salary.

[RashanGary]

He can qualify for an Injury Protection Benefit for up to two years. It would pay out the guaranteed portion (not necessarily the same as the reported number due to complexity of the contract), but I think the cap hit is capped at less than $2M. The rest is not counted against the salary.

Thanks!!!

Ken Ingalls is presenting it differently at Twitter, but I’ve never seen a big injury cap situation so what you’re saying makes so much more sense to what is happening.

[bobblehead]

Injury grievance is only for the same season the injury occurs.

This

[bobblehead]

Thanks!!!

Ken Ingalls is presenting it differently at Twitter, but I’ve never seen a big injury cap situation so what you’re saying makes so much more sense to what is happening.

I know it was awhile ago, but think Sterling Sharpe. He held out on the eve of camp for a big deal. Surprised everyone. Got his deal. Got hurt. They cut him and owed him nothing after that season.

[RashanGary]

From Ken Ingalls

If the Packers cut David Bakhtiari before he passes a physical, he

1⃣At a minimum qualifies for Injury Protection - $1.230M cap in 2024.

2⃣Can file an Injury Grievance for his 2024 salary of $21.5M - $8.6M (40%) hits 2024 immediately with the balance reconciled upon settlement.

[RashanGary]

There have been a few CBAs since Sterling Sharpe in the mid 90’s

[RashanGary]

I just read directly from the nflpa that a player can’t file an injury grievance for a previous years injury. He must first pass a physical and then get reinjured.

They went in to say he could file a non-injury grievance where he could collect a max of 2M




Ken Ingalls is completely off and none of his 1000s of followers have corrected him yet. Weird that this place had two guys dig it up instantly and then I finally got unlazy enough to dig it up a third time.

[call_me_ishmael]

I don't think you can cut an injured player without an injury settlement.

[sharpe1027]

From Ken Ingalls

If the Packers cut David Bakhtiari before he passes a physical, he

1⃣At a minimum qualifies for Injury Protection - $1.230M cap in 2024.

2⃣Can file an Injury Grievance for his 2024 salary of $21.5M - $8.6M (40%) hits 2024 immediately with the balance reconciled upon settlement.

I read the CBA just now, but am not an expert. It is complicated. It might actually be limited to around $2M total compensation.

If in the 2021 League Year the player’s Paragraph 5 Salary equals $3,000,000 and player’s Injury Protection Benefit payment equals $2,000,000 (representing the maximum payment under Section 3(a) above), the first $1,200,000 would be charged to Team Salary, and the remaining $800,000 would be treated as a Player Benefit Cost, as indicated in the “2021” column of the above table.

[sharpe1027]

Okay, looking close, the first $2M or so if guaranteed money gets treated as Injury Benefits, according to the breakdown I have above (it changes slightly from year to year).

The rest is probably just straight dead cap. I haven't found any exceptions to that. Teams and players are free to negotiate for settlements, but I think that's the starting point.

It's too complex for me to be certain.