Official 2024 NFL Draft Thread

[run pMc]

What I said was that Newhouse played like a lemon for the Packers, and I doubt many would dispute that. If he rose to the level of mediocre with other teams, good for him hahahaha. You said a team can get away with having two Newhouse level guys in their O Line? Do you mean post-Packer mediocre Newhouse or Packer lemon Newhouse? I've been saying all along you can get by with 4 or 5 mediocre O Linemen - the Packers have been that for most of the Favre/Rodgers/Love era. Saturday was indeed a total lemon with the Packers. I never had a very high opinion of Wells, and I wouldn't rate Bulaga or Lang any better than mediocre. Sitton was pretty good in his best years. All of them, however, seemed better than they were because of the great QBs we've had who could escape the pass rush. Bottom line IMO is that we don't need to use a high draft pick for O Line - probably ever. 3rd at the highest, more likely 4th or 5th is about right, That's where we got ya'all's sacred cow who I saw as ok, maybe a little above mediocre but not much even in his prime.

LOL

ask a great QB and his Achilles how mediocre his OLs were. Funny how he lasted 4 passes once he switched teams.
I think it's great you;re a Packer fan, I don't think you are a good judge of OL play. I'm fine leaving it at that.

[texaspackerbacker]

His whole Packer career, Rodgers was rushed horribly. Maybe by the time he got to the Jets, he wasn't mobile as when he was younger. Or maybe it was just bad luck - like most injuries to anybody. As for judging O Line play, I know what I see and what I have seen all through the Rodgers and Favre years and a good deal of time before that. I remember several QBs the Packers were forced by injuries to use, most notably Seneca Wallace, who had to deal with the same kind of pass rush as Rodgers, and it wasn't a pretty sight. It's the QB that makes the O Line seem good or bad.

[KYPack]

Tex your ability to rate Oline talent is worse than piss poor. There are countless examples of this in your posts over the years.
Where do you get this bullshit that Packer OLines were mediocre at best and ARod and his great skill is what kept us in the games in which he played? That's a total crock of shit. We have had many capable OLineman that you criticize unfairly.

Focusing on your extreme criticism of David Bahktiari is an example of your bizarre player evaluations. This guy is one of the best Olineman in Packer History. On November 15, 2020, the Packers signed Dave to a four-year, $105.5 million contract extension that would make him the highest-paid offensive lineman in NFL history. He twice a first team all pro, THREE times a 2nd team All Pro, 3 times Pro Bowler. But I guess those honors don't count because they involve "the goddamned media"?

The Packers didn't put good lines in front of Rodgers? That is total bullshit. In 2020 we had 2 1st team All Pro Olinemen and Elly Jenkins was named a Pro Bowler. But I guess those players ain't good enough for coach Tex.

Lose your "Y'alls Sacred cow" for the simple reason that you have no clue what you are talking about.

[Fritz]

Agree.
I've heard so many different things about Kool-Aid that IDK what to think. (He's supposedly a lazy player.) As coach who wants to teach and develop players Hafley is going to want a CB he can mold into 'his guy'.

I like Wiggins but that weight at the combine is scary (173?) and likely disqualifies him. GB wants their CB's around 190.

I think we can safely blame Kool-Aid's parents for his laziness. How can anyone named "Kool-Aid" possibly be expected to work hard?

I know this is not logical but I will be somewhat comforted if the Packers' first-round pick is NOT at a position of need. That kind of pick leads me to think the team really is going BPA and not by need. The whole schtick about "Yeah, he was the best player on our board . . . and he just so happens to fill our biggest need" is not necessarily untrue, but it can smell fishy.

[jklowan]

I think we can safely blame Kool-Aid's parents for his laziness. How can anyone named "Kool-Aid" possibly be expected to work hard?

I know this is not logical but I will be somewhat comforted if the Packers' first-round pick is NOT at a position of need. That kind of pick leads me to think the team really is going BPA and not by need. The whole schtick about "Yeah, he was the best player on our board . . . and he just so happens to fill our biggest need" is not necessarily untrue, but it can smell fishy.

I think they pick for need with the 1st 3 picks, just a hunch but I am starting to think it goes like this. 1st round trade down to late 1st or early 2nd, then OL/LB/Safety my guess is Graham Barton/Edgerrin Cooper/Jaden Hicks

[jklowan]

I think they pick for need with the 1st 3 picks, just a hunch but I am starting to think it goes like this. 1st round trade down to late 1st or early 2nd, then OL/LB/Safety my guess is Graham Barton/Edgerrin Cooper/Jaden Hicks

Great minds think alike...

https://lombardiave.com/posts/packers-benefit-stefon-diggs-trade-2024-nfl-mock-draft-01htjpmes0fx/partners/36534?fbclid=IwAR3E8i01Kbf8jtQpWDuTPIP0ZLvIdC-2cyltz-1mwhso5HNfkUFFugDVe7A_aem_ATadwJs6I_Q8nvk3TZgqOANZ2qcULRpymRdqqw4eYdhsAZGFxLdLCLhNhaq8cW1FYrEl_5_h3nAQheTSg5EBlyOe

[Fritz]

Has anyone noticed that Cooper DeJean bears a bit of a resemblance to Carl 'Alfalfa' Switzer?

I see it!

I hope he has a better career than Carl Switzer did. Dude ended up getting only bit parts after The Little Rascals and ended up as a dog trainer and hunting guide/bartender. Murdered at the age of 31.

[texaspackerbacker]

KYP, you and the rest of the sacred cow worshiping clique in here must be blind. Virtually every pass play, Rodgers was rushed quickly and horribly, and a helluva a lot of it was outside rush through Bakhtiari's spot. It was the mobility and overall quality of Rodgers (and Favre before him and now Love) that made the O Line seem to some as good, few sacks given up, etc. Do ya'all not recall the few times other lesser QBs were back there (the first one I mentioned that comes to mind was Seneca Wallace) running for their lives due to the porous O Line blocking? Do ya'all also not recall that by far the most successful running plays were through the center/guard holes, with much less success outside or off tackle with the sacred cow blocking?

And through it all, the team was near the top just about every year - no thanks to the O Lines.

This being the draft thread, my position was and is that I HOPE they don't use a first or probably second round either pick for O Line, as firstly, the likelihood of a bust being picked there is higher and secondly and probably more important,, just ok or generally mediocre O Linemen, as the Packers have had just about all the time since the Lombardi era, are plenty good enough assuming you have excellence at the skill positions.

[bobblehead]

Tex's ability to rank OL is rivaled only by APB's ability to rank cold play music.

[bobblehead]

I think they pick for need with the 1st 3 picks, just a hunch but I am starting to think it goes like this. 1st round trade down to late 1st or early 2nd, then OL/LB/Safety my guess is Graham Barton/Edgerrin Cooper/Jaden Hicks

Not sure a trade down and still getting Barton is in the cards, but hard to say. AGAIN, there are so many good OL that I have to believe a really quality (think Bulaga) player slips to our pick. Not sure I will want to trade back at that point....sort of like I didn't want to trade back when TJ Watt slid to us.

[The Shadow]

I see it!

I hope he has a better career than Carl Switzer did. Dude ended up getting only bit parts after The Little Rascals and ended up as a dog trainer and hunting guide/bartender. Murdered at the age of 31.

Yes!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tex's ability to rank OL is rivaled only by APB's ability to rank cold play music.

1. Clocks
2. The Scientist
3. In My Place
4. People of the Pride
5. A Rush of Blood to the Head
6. Coloratura
7. Orphans
8. Let Somebody Go
9. Don’t Panic
10. Speed of Sound
11. Amsterdam
12. Yellow
13. Champions of the World
14. Violet Hill
15. Everglow
16. Viva La Vida

[KYPack]

KYP, you and the rest of the sacred cow worshiping clique in here must be blind. Virtually every pass play, Rodgers was rushed quickly and horribly, and a helluva a lot of it was outside rush through Bakhtiari's spot. It was the mobility and overall quality of Rodgers (and Favre before him and now Love) that made the O Line seem to some as good, few sacks given up, etc. Do ya'all not recall the few times other lesser QBs were back there (the first one I mentioned that comes to mind was Seneca Wallace) running for their lives due to the porous O Line blocking? Do ya'all also not recall that by far the most successful running plays were through the center/guard holes, with much less success outside or off tackle with the sacred cow blocking?

And through it all, the team was near the top just about every year - no thanks to the O Lines.

This being the draft thread, my position was and is that I HOPE they don't use a first or probably second round either pick for O Line, as firstly, the likelihood of a bust being picked there is higher and secondly and probably more important,, just ok or generally mediocre O Linemen, as the Packers have had just about all the time since the Lombardi era, are plenty good enough assuming you have excellence at the skill positions.

The forum members are blind? I guess the All-Pro selectors, the Packer coaches and Green Bay management were quite myopic too. Your assertions are pure hogwash. I don't know why you keep up these foolish ideas of yours, but let me assure you they have no basis in fact.
This bullshit you keep peddling also reflects negatively on your credibilty.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Shadow’s Packers Mock Draft:

1. CB Cooper DeJean
2. WR Ladd McConkey
2. RB Will Shipley
3. S Cole Bishop
3. LB Tommy Eichenberg
4. Edge Jonah Elliss
5. DT Logan Lee
6. TE Tanner McLachlan
7. OT Garret Greenfield

[Fosco33]

Are Tex and apb the same person. Man - that’d be hilarious.