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  • Is It Just a Disgruntled Former Packer or Is There Truth?

    Just saw this with our favorite third-string quarterback, Kurt Benkert.

    He seems to think The Flower is far, far too rigid. Hmmm. Just a bitter guy who got cut, or are his criticisms legitimate?

    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    No one who ever walked the planet is immune to critique. Is this one in particular legit? Maybe. What I do know is that this offense needs to show improvement as we move forward. And although Love showed plenty of promise early and flashes he needs to add consistency. I've said many times this is a reset season. A lot of questions needed to be answered going in. The Bak question pretty much has been answered. Even though our D was stout against a really bad team I think the Joe Barry question has been answered. Neither of them for the good. A lot of season to go. A lot of questions to be answered.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • #3
      Matt does seem a little stubborn sometimes, and maybe not the coolest of cucumbers, but I also think winning makes his strengths looks better and his weaknesses look trivial.

      Just win a few games and it kinda goes away.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        Just saw this with our favorite third-string quarterback, Kurt Benkert.

        He seems to think The Flower is far, far too rigid. Hmmm. Just a bitter guy who got cut, or are his criticisms legitimate?

        Meh. He's being criticized on twitter by a guy whose regular season experience consists of talking a knee twice in 2021, and is now out of the NFL.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          I don't think anything Benkert said -- which was mostly related to having different personalities that didn't jive together -- was that bad. Being as public/outspoken about it is probably the thing, is all. He didn't say MLF was a bad coach, just that he liked Shanahan better and that Shanahan was more flexible and didn't act like he had all the answers.

          MLF isn't a bad coach, but I don't think he's above criticism. All the times he's ignored Aaron Jones (we need to get him the ball more), or put Dillon in bad positions (run him north south, not outside), or had game plans where they are chucking the ball all over the place when just moving the chains on easy completions would do. And then there's the loyalty over competence thing with Barry, Drayton, and others.

          As for the scheme, I don't know that it's outdated. I think he's adapted his scheme over time. I'm not sure he's adapted it to best accomodate his players this year. Scheme, game planning, and preparedness are parts of being a HC, and there have been times he's come up short.
          JMHO

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          • #6
            Rigid in what way? When Benkert was in Green Bay and all the Rodgers/La Fleur years, La Fleur subordinated his ego and ran a Rodgers oriented offense - for better or worse. That's the opposite of rigid in my book.

            We're just now seeing La Fleur's scheme this season, and even now, it seems like he's doing what he does based on the personnel of the team as well as the kind of defense he's going against. Supposedly Jones not playing against the Raiders was a late scratch thing. Those mildly successful run plays with Dillon running would have looked absolutely great with Jones. Was that rigidity? Or just not enough time to change before game time?

            The only rigidity I see is La Fleur retaining Joe Barry - the clear cause of virtually all the problems this team might have.
            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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            • #7
              All this talk about MLF being too rigid vs too flaccid doesn't matter. What matters is if they win games.

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              • #8
                My point is rigid coaches can be successful just the same as flaccid coaches. Back up QBs that never play may prefer flaccid coaches, but their opinion isn't relevant. It's all about the wins and losses.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                  My point is rigid coaches can be successful just the same as flaccid coaches. Back up QBs that never play may prefer flaccid coaches, but their opinion isn't relevant. It's all about the wins and losses.
                  And as is often the case, there's context missing. Read another article about how all that went down, that "interview," and it's all those "content creators" who spin clips from longer pieces, and the clips, minus the context, go viral. Basically, Benkert also admitted the Packers didn't like his focus on his social media development, which he felt was his "future." So there's another element as to why he got cut.

                  I don't know. Just wondering what MLF's like as a coach.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    No one who ever walked the planet is immune to critique.
                    A gem
                    Upfront - I'm going to "borrow and reuse" it and let others believe I thought it up myself

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by QBME View Post
                      A gem
                      Upfront - I'm going to "borrow and reuse" it and let others believe I thought it up myself
                      Wait about Jesus?

                      Though I think he kind of set up Judas, and you could ding him for that.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Wait about Jesus?

                        Though I think he kind of set up Judas, and you could ding him for that.
                        Jesus should have taught a few others that trick about feeding 100 people with a loaf of bread. He kept it to himself. Therefore I am going to criticize him for that.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                          Jesus should have taught a few others that trick about feeding 100 people with a loaf of bread. He kept it to himself. Therefore I am going to criticize him for that.
                          Wasn't just bread. Was also an all-you-can-eat fish fry. Must have been a Friday.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #14
                            So you're criticizing him because he didn't get his fishing license from the DNR?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                              So you're criticizing him because he didn't get his fishing license from the DNR?
                              Just another criminal I guess.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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