More Banjo - Packers vs Buccaneers

[Joemailman]

Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
Buccaneers had these situations today:

1st & 15
2nd & 29
3rd & 12
2nd & 18

Here were the results on the next play:

1st & 15 - 9 yard gain
2nd & 29 - 24 yard gain
3rd & 12 - 15 yard gain
2nd & 18 - 21 yard gain

[run pMc]

This is more an indictment of Barry than it is of Campbell imo.

I didn't think Campbell played well. Seems like he has a case of the Olds. He looks a step slow. It happens to ILBs when they reach 30 just like it does to RBs.

[run pMc]

When asked if he would consider a change at defensive coordinator, Matt LaFleur said: “Now’s not the time for that.”

When asked why not, he said: “I’ve got to find solutions. I’ve got to go back and take a look at the film.”

He didn't say "No" outright to the first question though. Hey, we can dream.

[run pMc]

The defense made Baker Mayfield look like vintage Aaron Rodgers today. I think he had a perfect passer rating, which is a bad indictment of the defense (if last week's game vs. DeVito wasn't bad enough).
Baker threw 4 TDs and 6 incompletions. SIX.

Last week they let a 3rd stringer complete 80% of his throws and run for 70 yards while not sacking him once.

The defense is allowing historic performances. I know MLF likes his guys and is loyal, but this is absurd.

The offense had its struggles today but I don't think they were the problem. The back 7 on defense were terrible today, and I don't think the coordinator was any better.
Atrocious defense lost this game.

[bobblehead]

This is more an indictment of Barry than it is of Campbell imo.

Agreed. I saw him covering Godwin on half his catches

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Packers ain’t mathematically eliminated from the wally dance with this loss. But I have better odds of making it big in Hollywood as a screenwriter/lyricist AND dating Jennifer Lawrence than the Packers have of making the playoffs.

A second straight non-playoffs season means the Packers would be eligible for Hard Knocks, unless they can The Frog. I hope the NFL forces the Packers to be on that fucking show.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I seriously miss Dom Capers. I miss the Psycho, DB blitzing and the fucking zone blitz.

Barry looks like a dead man walking. Odds are good he ain’t gonna be back next season. Might as well can the vanilla coach already and use the last 3 games as a platform for an assistant to audition for the DC gig.

I’d like to see The Frog give the DB coach, Greg Williams, a shot.

[run pMc]

I think the Packers would love to not be on Hard Knocks. Well, MLF and Gute anyway. Distractions for a young team, and they like to keep things buttoned up anyway.
Only team who would like it less would be the Patriots with Belichick. Can you imagine him with film crews everywhere?

Capers defense was good until people figured it out, and once he made it phone book sized so only vets could play in it. Offenses are better about turnovers now, so a defense that is predicated on turnovers is unlikely to be as successful. Still, I agree a more agressive defense with tighter coverage would likely have improved GB's chances in recent games.

Disagree on giving an assistant a chance... hiring the interim guy to be the guy the next season never works out well, and I think it just becomes a distraction and adds to the drama. They're still technically in the hunt, they won't waver now. They didn't when they were 4-8 (or 8-8, or 8-9) last year. I want Barry gone, but I don't think it happens mid-season (if ever). I do agree Greg Williams has helped the secondary out vs. Jerry Gray, most likely because Gray disagreed with Barry and probably wouldn't/couldn't get on same page with him. He'd be worth keeping around, but I don't think making him DC is the way.

[run pMc]

Chris Godwin is a good player, but Barry's D made him look like Justin Jefferson.

Also - remember when David Moore played (that one game) for Green Bay back in 2021? No? He did.

[Joemailman]

Need to stop throwing to the old guys.

Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2

Correction!

#Packers QB Jordan Love when targeting rookies Dontayvion Wicks, Jayden Reed, Tucker Kraft and Malik Heath vs. Bucs:

19/24 for 235 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 135.2 passer rating

[Joemailman]

Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
3rd and 4.
Down 7.
8:48 left in the game

Packers might as well be playing 9 on 11 because the safeties are in Escanaba.


Complete to Godwin with Campbell/Quay in zone.

Situational tone deafness is a real problem. Donate today.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, our DBs weren't great, but they were adequate - and damn good considering the low level mostly that we got them at. Where the Packers D really stunk was at ILB. Walker has some good qualities, but he can't pass cover worth shit, and most of his tackles are down field after a large gain. Campbell was just pathetic all around.

The problem, though, was God damned Joe Barry putting them in impossible spots with his scheme, and then just letting the situation fester instead of adjusting. Other teams - probably almost 31 others - do a lot better with the same or worse talent.

Love was 29-39, 280+ yards, 2 TDS, no picks ....... that ought to be good enough to win a game.

[red]

wow

3rd and 4 and our safety is 23 yards past the first down marker

16 yards deeper then the deepest WR

and whats worse, it looks like both CBs released their guys at the LOS

[run pMc]

Yeah, our DBs weren't great, but they were adequate

If they were adequate, they wouldn't be giving up that much space or getting burned that badly.
The pass defense is playing below adequate. Which throws did Baker make that would be considered difficult? He had two incompletions at halftime and six for the game. He almost had as many TDs as incompletions. That's not good pass defense.
I agree the ILBs didn't play well - especially Devondre - but the secondary was very bad.

This was a failure of the pass defense - both coaching and execution. The Bucs didn't really have to run much because Baker had easy throws. I can't think of a single 3rd down in the game where I thought GB would stop them.

[Fritz]

If they were adequate, they wouldn't be giving up that much space or getting burned that badly.
The pass defense is playing below adequate. Which throws did Baker make that would be considered difficult? He had two incompletions at halftime and six for the game. He almost had as many TDs as incompletions. That's not good pass defense.
I agree the ILBs didn't play well - especially Devondre - but the secondary was very bad.

This was a failure of the pass defense - both coaching and execution. The Bucs didn't really have to run much because Baker had easy throws. I can't think of a single 3rd down in the game where I thought GB would stop them.

The part I've put in boldface type is the kind of stuff that really pisses me off about you Barry-bashers: you complain and complain and bitch and whine that a Barry defense absolutely cannot stop the run.

And in YOUR OWN POST, you point out that Joe Barry found a way to stop Tampa Bay from running. Yet still you all bitch.