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  • #16
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    Red, I would argue that if we squeak into the playoffs Love WILL get MVP votes. There was an article on it from one of the packer sites and his numbers are comparable to the contenders. Let me look it up quick.

    Green Bay Packers QB Jordan Love won't win NFL MVP, but the numbers show why he should at least be in contention.


    Love: 3,587 passing yards
    27 passing touchdowns
    11 interceptions
    91.8 passer rating
    3 rushing touchdowns

    Brock Purdy: 4,050 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTs, 112.2 rating, 2 rushing TDs
    Jalen Hurts: 3,636 yards, 20 TDs, 13 INTs, 89.6 rating, 14 rushing TDs
    Lamar Jackson: 3,357 yards, 19 TDs, 7 INTs, 97.2 rating, 5 rushing TDs
    Patrick Mahomes: 3,938 yards, 26 TDs, 14 INTs, 91.7 rating
    Josh Allen: 3,778 yards, 27 TDs, 15 INTs, 93.7 rating, 13 rushing TDs
    Tua Tagovailoa: 4,214 yards, 26 TDs, 10 INTs, 105.5 rating
    Dak Prescott: 3,892 yards, 30 TDs, 7 INTs, 104.2 rating, 2 rushing TDs

    If you factor in what he is working with, he deserves to be in the conversation. Now I'm speculating, but I bet if you looked at late season results he is better than most of that list. I think he only has one pick in the last 5 games.
    i think you're right

    thanks for posting everyones stats, i was just looking at them but was too lazy to copy and paste them all

    he's right in there with all those guys

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    • #17
      I think you're delusional Red to think they're be a 10 to 12 win team with a competent DC. They just don't have a lot of talent on the team, and the talent they do have has been hurt (Bak, Alexander, RB)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
        I think you're delusional Red to think they're be a 10 to 12 win team with a competent DC. They just don't have a lot of talent on the team, and the talent they do have has been hurt (Bak, Alexander, RB)
        delusional?

        we are 7-9 right now. the defense lost the games against the falcons, giants and bucs (at the least)

        if the D make one fucking play in each of those games, we are 10-6 with 2 winnable games to go

        WITH all those injuries

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        • #19
          Originally posted by red View Post
          delusional?

          we are 7-9 right now. the defense lost the games against the falcons, giants and bucs (at the least)

          if the D make one fucking play in each of those games, we are 10-6 with 2 winnable games to go

          WITH all those injuries


          that goes both ways

          We got lucky plenty this year. WE needed Derrick Carr to get injured and their solid kicker to muff a game winning field goal just a bit longer then an extra point. With Stafford we don't beat the Rams. We've had plenty of breaks this year as well.

          I want Barry gone...like LAST YEAR, but our defense has problems all around it. It's not just Barry
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            This team should have a ton of organic growth on offense. That should improve the record alone.

            On D, a new Coordinator definitely changes the equation.

            Lucky, unlucky, you tend to be what your record says you are. The packers right now are brutally young and lost games because they are learning. I would hope injury luck improves next year. I'll say it again. We have been running out a fleet of pass catchers in their first 2 years and after injury, none of them have been picked in the first 2 rounds. Show me one other team that does that? Hell, when we were trotting out Adams and a bunch of stiffs everyone here was crying that Gutes didn't give Rodgers ANYTHING to work with (cuz I guess Adams sucks). Love is dropping 30 with Bo Melton and company....all the while with a D that can't get off the field.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              This team should have a ton of organic growth on offense. That should improve the record alone.

              On D, a new Coordinator definitely changes the equation.

              Lucky, unlucky, you tend to be what your record says you are. The packers right now are brutally young and lost games because JOE BARRY SUCKS AS A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. I would hope injury luck improves next year. I'll say it again. We have been running out a fleet of pass catchers in their first 2 years and after injury, none of them have been picked in the first 2 rounds. Show me one other team that does that? Hell, when we were trotting out Adams and a bunch of stiffs everyone here was crying that Gutes didn't give Rodgers ANYTHING to work with (cuz I guess Adams sucks). Love is dropping 30 with Bo Melton and company....all the while with a D that can't get off the field.

              Okay. Had to fix that.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #22
                I said lost games, not all the games they lost. Barry certainly has cost them wins as well, but MiLF was't wrong about going 3 and out 3X last week. Barry fucking blows, but you need to kill that clock as well.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #23
                  10 years 65mil average
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #24
                    Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.
                      his value went way up last night, and it was already going up the last half of the season

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                      • #26
                        Whatever it ends up being, it will be worth it, and it will also be doable with intelligent handling of the salary cap.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.
                          Under 60 is going to be tough unless he lays a rodgers sized 49er egg
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #28
                            Veteran minimum. Don't most all players say they'd play the game for fun?

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                            • #29
                              OK, don’t know shit about salaries, cap hits, etc.
                              Is it possible to structure a contract , guaranteed, to pay out over a whole bunch of years?
                              Like MLB?
                              First done by Bobby Bonilla, now by Shoei Ohtani.
                              Pay a guaranteed bunch up front, then pay out a bit, year by year?

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                              • #30
                                Unlike MLB, the only thing guaranteed is the bonus and the first year, and of course the bonus gets prorated against the cap for the duration of the contract. Paying out the huge bonuses can bite a team in the ass if the player has a career ending or debilitating injury or just fades in performance - that's the chance you take to beat the cap when signing somebody good.

                                Baseball, I remember somebody like Rickie Weeks and to a lesser extent Ryan Braun who were like millstones on the Brewers financial books for years when they faded due to injury or whatever. I assume there are a lot of other examples that could be cited on other teams.
                                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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