Predict the new money on Jordan Love’s new deal

[red]

Red, I would argue that if we squeak into the playoffs Love WILL get MVP votes. There was an article on it from one of the packer sites and his numbers are comparable to the contenders. Let me look it up quick.

https://lombardiave.com/posts/green-bay-packers-jordan-love-mvp-race-numbers-01hjj33stq5k

Love: 3,587 passing yards
27 passing touchdowns
11 interceptions
91.8 passer rating
3 rushing touchdowns

Brock Purdy: 4,050 yards, 29 TDs, 11 INTs, 112.2 rating, 2 rushing TDs
Jalen Hurts: 3,636 yards, 20 TDs, 13 INTs, 89.6 rating, 14 rushing TDs
Lamar Jackson: 3,357 yards, 19 TDs, 7 INTs, 97.2 rating, 5 rushing TDs
Patrick Mahomes: 3,938 yards, 26 TDs, 14 INTs, 91.7 rating
Josh Allen: 3,778 yards, 27 TDs, 15 INTs, 93.7 rating, 13 rushing TDs
Tua Tagovailoa: 4,214 yards, 26 TDs, 10 INTs, 105.5 rating
Dak Prescott: 3,892 yards, 30 TDs, 7 INTs, 104.2 rating, 2 rushing TDs

If you factor in what he is working with, he deserves to be in the conversation. Now I'm speculating, but I bet if you looked at late season results he is better than most of that list. I think he only has one pick in the last 5 games.

i think you're right

thanks for posting everyones stats, i was just looking at them but was too lazy to copy and paste them all

he's right in there with all those guys

[call_me_ishmael]

I think you're delusional Red to think they're be a 10 to 12 win team with a competent DC. They just don't have a lot of talent on the team, and the talent they do have has been hurt (Bak, Alexander, RB)

[red]

I think you're delusional Red to think they're be a 10 to 12 win team with a competent DC. They just don't have a lot of talent on the team, and the talent they do have has been hurt (Bak, Alexander, RB)

delusional?

we are 7-9 right now. the defense lost the games against the falcons, giants and bucs (at the least)

if the D make one fucking play in each of those games, we are 10-6 with 2 winnable games to go

WITH all those injuries

[Bretsky]

delusional?

we are 7-9 right now. the defense lost the games against the falcons, giants and bucs (at the least)

if the D make one fucking play in each of those games, we are 10-6 with 2 winnable games to go

WITH all those injuries

that goes both ways

We got lucky plenty this year. WE needed Derrick Carr to get injured and their solid kicker to muff a game winning field goal just a bit longer then an extra point. With Stafford we don't beat the Rams. We've had plenty of breaks this year as well.

I want Barry gone...like LAST YEAR, but our defense has problems all around it. It's not just Barry

[bobblehead]

This team should have a ton of organic growth on offense. That should improve the record alone.

On D, a new Coordinator definitely changes the equation.

Lucky, unlucky, you tend to be what your record says you are. The packers right now are brutally young and lost games because they are learning. I would hope injury luck improves next year. I'll say it again. We have been running out a fleet of pass catchers in their first 2 years and after injury, none of them have been picked in the first 2 rounds. Show me one other team that does that? Hell, when we were trotting out Adams and a bunch of stiffs everyone here was crying that Gutes didn't give Rodgers ANYTHING to work with (cuz I guess Adams sucks). Love is dropping 30 with Bo Melton and company....all the while with a D that can't get off the field.

[Fritz]

This team should have a ton of organic growth on offense. That should improve the record alone.

On D, a new Coordinator definitely changes the equation.

Lucky, unlucky, you tend to be what your record says you are. The packers right now are brutally young and lost games because JOE BARRY SUCKS AS A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. I would hope injury luck improves next year. I'll say it again. We have been running out a fleet of pass catchers in their first 2 years and after injury, none of them have been picked in the first 2 rounds. Show me one other team that does that? Hell, when we were trotting out Adams and a bunch of stiffs everyone here was crying that Gutes didn't give Rodgers ANYTHING to work with (cuz I guess Adams sucks). Love is dropping 30 with Bo Melton and company....all the while with a D that can't get off the field.

Okay. Had to fix that.

[bobblehead]

I said lost games, not all the games they lost. Barry certainly has cost them wins as well, but MiLF was't wrong about going 3 and out 3X last week. Barry fucking blows, but you need to kill that clock as well.

[Upnorth]

10 years 65mil average

[RashanGary]

Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.

[red]

Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.

his value went way up last night, and it was already going up the last half of the season

[texaspackerbacker]

Whatever it ends up being, it will be worth it, and it will also be doable with intelligent handling of the salary cap.

[Upnorth]

Under 50 is going to be tough at this point.

Under 60 is going to be tough unless he lays a rodgers sized 49er egg

[sharpe1027]

Veteran minimum. Don't most all players say they'd play the game for fun?

[QBME]

OK, don’t know shit about salaries, cap hits, etc.
Is it possible to structure a contract , guaranteed, to pay out over a whole bunch of years?
Like MLB?
First done by Bobby Bonilla, now by Shoei Ohtani.
Pay a guaranteed bunch up front, then pay out a bit, year by year?

[texaspackerbacker]

Unlike MLB, the only thing guaranteed is the bonus and the first year, and of course the bonus gets prorated against the cap for the duration of the contract. Paying out the huge bonuses can bite a team in the ass if the player has a career ending or debilitating injury or just fades in performance - that's the chance you take to beat the cap when signing somebody good.

Baseball, I remember somebody like Rickie Weeks and to a lesser extent Ryan Braun who were like millstones on the Brewers financial books for years when they faded due to injury or whatever. I assume there are a lot of other examples that could be cited on other teams.