WHO DEVELOPS INTO the NUMBER ONE WIDE RECEIVER in GB ?

[texaspackerbacker]

Who said anything about trading any of them? hahahaha

What I see happening is WRs gradually going the way of RBs - less likely to get drafted in the first round and less likely to get super-size contracts. Why? It's becoming apparent that it's just not that hard anymore to find really good WRs drafted later or even FAs.

[Scott Campbell]

You make it sounds like we can get multiple firsts for all these guys They have a ton to prove before I'd call any of them great.

I’m willing to say our group is especially great relative to what they’re getting paid.

[sharpe1027]

I really like this WR group, but I don't think they're as good as what I'm reading in this thread. Still a lot of questions. Most of these guys have at most one good season as a basis to assess.

[Scott Campbell]

Most of these guys have at most one good season as a basis to assess.

Reed and Wicks are heading into their 2nd years. How many good seasons are they supposed to have at this point?

[Scott Campbell]

PFF graded Melton at about 88 in a pretty limited sample size last year. I think that was 10 points higher than any other Packer receiver. He had a pretty spectacular finish to the season after finally getting an opportunity.

I think Wicks is the guy most likely to develop into our #1 because of his ability to get open so regularly, but it wouldn’t surprise at all if it ended up being Reed, Watson or Melton. It wouldn’t bother me at all if none of them overly dominated targets and we continue to spread it around to all 4 of them. If you don’t have a true #1 you don’t have to pay a true #1. If we have a lethal passing attack, nobody should care.

Justin Jesfferson is a great player, but that contract he just got is a boat anchor.

[sharpe1027]

Reed and Wicks are heading into their 2nd years. How many good seasons are they supposed to have at this point?

Do you really think I expect them to have NFL experience before they joined the NFL?

My point is having one good year is far from a guarantee of consistent performance over subsequent years. I think this is particularly true the year following a breakout year. Romeo Doubs is a recent example.

The bigger the sample size the more confidence.

[Scott Campbell]

Do you really think I expect them to have NFL experience before they joined the NFL?

My point is having one good year is far from a guarantee of consistent performance over subsequent years. I think this is particularly true the year following a breakout year. Romeo Doubs is a recent example.

The bigger the sample size the more confidence.

Doubs is an example of what?

[Fritz]

INTERESTING COMMENTS from Flower . Goodby Toure ?

Melton has taken the momentum from the end of last season and built on it this offseason, and LaFleur didn't hold back with his praise.

"I think it's a great story. Just being persistent and to continue to push forward even when the stacks are put up against you," said LaFleur. "He's done an outstanding job. He is so disciplined in his approach and how he is, and he's so consistent on a daily basis. He brings so much value. He brings a lot of energy to our team."

Toure , Heath, Dubose - duking it out for that final roster spot, if the Packers keep six, and if I’m remembering all the others who are locks. I know The Flower loved Heath’s blocking. That’s a plus for him. Dubose was mostly hurt, I think, so this is his year to show what he can do. Toure was the talk of camp last year when he showed up looking like Tarzan, but he played like Jane. He never looks comfortable catching the ball or running after the catch.

[Scott Campbell]

In 2 seasons Gute did a complete rebuild of the entire WR room with no FA signings and relatively little draft capital (no first round picks).

Has this ever been done before in the NFL? I can’t remember ever seeing something like this.

[sharpe1027]

Doubs is an example of what?

Lots of people were really excited about how great he was as a rookie and expectations of how we would keep improving. He took a pretty good step back in year 2. People are now singing a different tune and he's not even in the discussion of being a number one WR for us.

[Joemailman]

Lots of people were really excited about how great he was as a rookie and expectations of how we would keep improving. He took a pretty good step back in year 2. People are now singing a different tune and he's not even in the discussion of being a number one WR for us.

How do you figure he took a step back? Receptions, yards, yards per catch and TD's were all up. Drops were down. I agree that he may never be a #1 guy, but that's more a reflection of the talent of the other receivers. Of his 59 receptions in 2023, 49 were for 1st downs or touchdowns. He's not the most consistent guy, but he's a guy Love looks to in key situations.

[sharpe1027]

How do you figure he took a step back? Receptions, yards, yards per catch and TD's were all up. Drops were down. I agree that he may never be a #1 guy, but that's more a reflection of the talent of the other receivers. Of his 59 receptions in 2023, 49 were for 1st downs or touchdowns. He's not the most consistent guy, but he's a guy Love looks to in key situations.

If you only look at the full year stat line, you miss that his rookie year he only played in 13 games and started only 7. More importantly, the opinion of how good he can be has shifted downward since his rookie year. That is, afterall, my whole point. The difference between one year of productivity at a certain level and 2 or 3 consecutive years is pretty important.

[sharpe1027]

In 2 seasons Gute did a complete rebuild of the entire WR room with no FA signings and relatively little draft capital (no first round picks).

Has this ever been done before in the NFL? I can’t remember ever seeing something like this.

It's very impressive.

[Scott Campbell]

Lots of people were really excited about how great he was as a rookie and expectations of how we would keep improving. He took a pretty good step back in year 2. People are now singing a different tune and he's not even in the discussion of being a number one WR for us.

I don’t think Doubs took a step back in year 2. He ceded some playing time to all the draft picks and saw yardage and TD’s decrease with more mouths to feed, but his PFF grade improved in 23 to 68.9 from 62.6 in 22. That’s a pretty nice improvement. I think he was a decent player as a rook, and a bit better player as a sophomore.

I’m not aware of anybody that expected Doubs to emerge as our #1. I don’t remember anyone gushing over “how great he was as a rookie”. You’re the first person I’ve heard say he “took a pretty good step back in year 2”.

I think it’s fair to say he’s out produced his draft status thus far.

[sharpe1027]

Take a walk down memory lane. Comps to Jefferson! even in the thread.This was the first thread I found from back then. I suspect there are more.

https://packerrats.com/showthread.ph...corps(e)/page4