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  • #91
    Later in the year Melton took on the "Tyrik Hill" role in the packers offense. MiLF even commented about taking some things from Miami and implementing them. Melton is a better fit for that type of role than taking the top off the D. Maybe he can do it, but the NFL scrap heap is littered with sub 4.4 40s.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • #92
      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
      the NFL scrap heap is littered with sub 4.4 40s.
      Absolutely. Janis was a 6’3 220lb low 4.4 guy and he was garbage. The list of elite speed guys and elite athletes who can’t play the receiver position is endless.

      I’m gonna disagree with you on Hill. I don’t know how long he’s going to last, but prime Tyreek is way more than an underneath YAC guy. He plays big. He attacks the ball. You’d never call him a possession guy, but he’s middle of the pack even in his worst quality, of using his body to make contested catches.

      Tyreek is a deep threat better than any I’ve seen not named Randy Moss.

      And the thing you’re boxing him in as, he’s also the best at that.


      The guy can do everything and a couple things he does better than any I’ve seen. He’s a small step below Randy Moss for me. And it’s close. He’s the best receiver in football. He’s the best receiver since Moss, and I think he might be the second best receiver of all time.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #93
        I see Melton as more of a Jayden Reed replacement than a Watson replacement, although he does have deep speed. I think they can use him on end arounds/jet sweeps and stuff out of the slot or in motion where he can have a two-way-go on a free release and put a slot corner in a real bind.

        He's not in the Wicks or Doubs mold at all IMO.

        He's a nice depth piece and in the driver's seat for WR5, but Malik Heath, Dubose, Toure, and all the UDFAs will be pushing him. I'm not sure if they keep 5 or 6 WRs, I'd think 6.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          Absolutely. Janis was a 6’3 220lb low 4.4 guy and he was garbage. The list of elite speed guys and elite athletes who can’t play the receiver position is endless.

          I’m gonna disagree with you on Hill. I don’t know how long he’s going to last, but prime Tyreek is way more than an underneath YAC guy. He plays big. He attacks the ball. You’d never call him a possession guy, but he’s middle of the pack even in his worst quality, of using his body to make contested catches.

          Tyreek is a deep threat better than any I’ve seen not named Randy Moss.

          And the thing you’re boxing him in as, he’s also the best at that.


          The guy can do everything and a couple things he does better than any I’ve seen. He’s a small step below Randy Moss for me. And it’s close. He’s the best receiver in football. He’s the best receiver since Moss, and I think he might be the second best receiver of all time.
          I didn't say Hill couldn't do other things, but his bread and butter is a mid range catch, that somehow has him 7 yards from the nearest defender then using burst to tack on 20 more. That is what Melton was doing a lot of late. I think you over rate Hill, but not by a lot. He does attack the ball in a way I have never seen a 5'8" guy do. I always said Moss is the best I ever watched when he is focused, but Rice was 2nd and always focused. I could lump 30 guys behind them at #3a thru 3ad and Hill would be on that list, but I can't definitively say Hill is better than Fitz, Tim Brown or Art Monk.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #95
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            Later in the year Melton took on the "Tyrik Hill" role in the packers offense. MiLF even commented about taking some things from Miami and implementing them. Melton is a better fit for that type of role than taking the top off the D. Maybe he can do it, but the NFL scrap heap is littered with sub 4.4 40s.
            I can see this comparison. Has that same tough style of playing too.

            Yup speed gets you into the NFL but can’t keep you there if your hands suck.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              I didn't say Hill couldn't do other things, but his bread and butter is a mid range catch, that somehow has him 7 yards from the nearest defender then using burst to tack on 20 more. That is what Melton was doing a lot of late. I think you over rate Hill, but not by a lot. He does attack the ball in a way I have never seen a 5'8" guy do. I always said Moss is the best I ever watched when he is focused, but Rice was 2nd and always focused. I could lump 30 guys behind them at #3a thru 3ad and Hill would be on that list, but I can't definitively say Hill is better than Fitz, Tim Brown or Art Monk.
              Steve Smith was a 5’9” guy who played big. Tyreek is kind of that with generational speed.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Steve Smith was a 5’9” guy who played big. Tyreek is kind of that with generational speed.
                I almost put steve smith on my little sample list above, but I think he only was really good for like 5 years. But as a little dude, yes, he did it first.

                Looked it up. He was better than I remember. 8 thousand yard seasons and played 15 years.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #98
                  It’ll be interesting to see how Tyreek’s career finishes. He’s one of the special ones for me though.

                  Kittle when he was at his peak
                  Moss
                  Tyreek
                  Barry Sanders

                  He’s on a short list of most spectacular skill players I’ve ever watched.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • #99
                    And I know there is something to be said for the Jerry Rice’s and Emmitt Smith’s and this generations Justin Jefferson’s and Davante Adams and Tom Brady’s….

                    But there is something different that separates the uniquely spectacular from the crowd.


                    When it comes to winning I’m not even saying my spectacular group is better. But just jaw dropping athletic feats… I have a small list of guys I just loved to watch play.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • I put Sterling Sharpe at his peak up with anyone I’ve ever watched play.

                      Defenses knew exactly who was getting the ball and still couldn’t slow him down.

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                      • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                        I put Sterling Sharpe at his peak up with anyone I’ve ever watched play.

                        Defenses knew exactly who was getting the ball and still couldn’t slow him down.
                        Crossed my mind because he was my childhood sports hero, but I don’t know if I trust my 8 year olds evaluation enough. But he was the other one that crossed my mind.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • At his peak legitimate arguments where being made about whether Sharpe was better than Rice. Had he played longer, maybe we would know. As it stands, I can't put him at that level.

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                          • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                            Absolutely. Janis was a 6’3 220lb low 4.4 guy and he was garbage. The list of elite speed guys and elite athletes who can’t play the receiver position is endless.

                            I’m gonna disagree with you on Hill. I don’t know how long he’s going to last, but prime Tyreek is way more than an underneath YAC guy. He plays big. He attacks the ball. You’d never call him a possession guy, but he’s middle of the pack even in his worst quality, of using his body to make contested catches.

                            Tyreek is a deep threat better than any I’ve seen not named Randy Moss.

                            And the thing you’re boxing him in as, he’s also the best at that.


                            The guy can do everything and a couple things he does better than any I’ve seen. He’s a small step below Randy Moss for me. And it’s close. He’s the best receiver in football. He’s the best receiver since Moss, and I think he might be the second best receiver of all time.
                            Bill Schroeder
                            Jeff Janis
                            Jared Abbrederis
                            Whitewater Jesus


                            Lotta sub par WhiteWR's
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                              I put Sterling Sharpe at his peak up with anyone I’ve ever watched play.

                              Defenses knew exactly who was getting the ball and still couldn’t slow him down.

                              I agree; he was kinda a prick but I don't think I'd argue any WR I ever watched was better than Sterling Sharpe
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                                I put Sterling Sharpe at his peak up with anyone I’ve ever watched play.

                                Defenses knew exactly who was getting the ball and still couldn’t slow him down.
                                Sharpe definitely didn't play long enough to be a top 30 all time, but I agree. If you just want to go with most dominant 5 years, Sharpe was pretty freaking awesome. He also was ascending when his career ended. Scary to think, but he might have gotten a little better still.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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