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  • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Completely agree. Great Packer person but production went down year after year. Maybe sign him to a vet minimum deal if they don’t draft or sign someone else they think can do the job.
    Agree. He peaked early and hasn't improved since. Probably regressed even.

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    • This would surprise a lot of people.

      Matt Schneidman
      @mattschneidman

      Packers starting RG Jon Runyan Jr. is set to be a UFA and switched his agent to Drew Rosenhaus. Per source, Rosenhaus met with Packers brass in Indianapolis and there is mutual interest in Runyan remaining a Packer. Would have to be right price for both sides, of course.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        This would surprise a lot of people.
        would be a mild surprise. I don't think it happens before the draft, and depends on price.
        He was bad the first half of the season but improved when they brought Rhyan in for competition. By end of season Runyan was outplaying Rhyan.
        GB does not have OL depth if they let Bakhtiari & Njiman walk and cut Newman (saves them 2-3M in cap space).

        They need to get better at C & RG so I'm kind of meh about it. Doesn't move the needle a lot, which makes me question it. Don't settle for JRJ unless all the good IOL are drafted.

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        • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          would be a mild surprise. I don't think it happens before the draft, and depends on price.
          He was bad the first half of the season but improved when they brought Rhyan in for competition. By end of season Runyan was outplaying Rhyan.
          GB does not have OL depth if they let Bakhtiari & Njiman walk and cut Newman (saves them 2-3M in cap space).

          They need to get better at C & RG so I'm kind of meh about it. Doesn't move the needle a lot, which makes me question it. Don't settle for JRJ unless all the good IOL are drafted.
          I think they're really short on depth so I don't really think signing Runyan would necessarily affect whether they draft IOL. So I think they could sign him before the draft. Runyan will want to see what his market value is first though.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            According to Tom Silverstein Packers are talking to Aaron Jones' agent (Drew Rosenhaus), and Packers are not expected to bring back AJ Dillon.
            Dillion is way more productive as a featured back. When Jones was out I thought Dillion handled the role well. I think we expect him to be this smashmouth type player because of his size and strength but that has never been the case at the LOS he doesn't move the pile forward. He is work bringing back at a Packer friendly contract, but I think other teams will think like I do and sign him to a decent contract that will never pay off for either player or team

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            • Dillion is way more productive as a featured back. When Jones was out I thought Dillion handled the role well.
              Why do you think this?
              Dillon averaged 3.4 ypc and 2TD
              Jones was much better as a featured back - he got 2 TD in the first game.

              I think Dillon would be a fine RB3 - 3rd down packages where he could run, catch or pass protect. I wish he was better at short yardage, but honestly you can often do just as well in short yardage or goal line situations with a smaller slithery guy like Jones.
              Dillon will get interest and I'd be a surprised if he didn't get a contract somewhere, but he's not feature back material. He does a lot of the little things well but he's not dynamic, his numbers have declined each year, and he came out of BC with a lot of wear and tear already. I don't think he has anymore ceiling than what he is.

              If they bring him back I wouldn't want it to be for a lot of money. I don't think they will because RBs are everywhere and cheap. Barkley, Jacobs, Ekeler, Pollard, Dobbins, and more are FA as well - why spend that FA money when you can draft guys and spend your FA money on a safety.

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              • I didn't say he was more productive as Jones.

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                • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                  Dillion is way more productive as a featured back. When Jones was out I thought Dillion handled the role well. I think we expect him to be this smashmouth type player because of his size and strength but that has never been the case at the LOS he doesn't move the pile forward. He is work bringing back at a Packer friendly contract, but I think other teams will think like I do and sign him to a decent contract that will never pay off for either player or team
                  He does tend to do better when he gets more carries, but even then it's not been all that great. Maybe it's partly the offensive line and he'll do better elsewhere.

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                  • Dillon's YPC have gone down each year. While the OL might not have been up to Packers normal standards the 1st half of the year, it wasn't that bad either. A JAG like Patrick Taylor average 4.4 YPC, a full yard per carry better than Dillon. Maybe he's just not a good fit for this offense. Time to move on.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • I don't think Dillon's struggles were all his fault, the OL was unsettled to start and got better down the stretch. However, whether that was in Game 1 or later in the year, there's a clear difference in how much more productive Jones was than Dillon.

                      At the end of the day it's JMHO that Dillon was not productive as a featured back. (There are stats/metrics to back that opinion up though. ) I used Jones as comparison because he was the preferred feature back for GB.

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                      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        I think they're really short on depth so I don't really think signing Runyan would necessarily affect whether they draft IOL. So I think they could sign him before the draft. Runyan will want to see what his market value is first though.
                        But it could have a considerable impact on which one(s) thay draft, and in which round(s).

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                        • Didn't know exactly where to post this, or how (obviously), and I thought another poster would have been all over it.
                          In any case, the results of the poll conducted by the inmates:
                          (Pack comes in at 3rd place overall)

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                          • Originally posted by QBME View Post
                            Didn't know exactly where to post this, or how (obviously), and I thought another poster would have been all over it.
                            In any case, the results of the poll conducted by the inmates:
                            (Pack comes in at 3rd place overall)
                            https://nflpa.com/nfl-player-team-report-cards-2024
                            One thing it shows is that players tend to like their head coach. MLF got a B+ grade, but that only ranked 21st. Worst grade the Packers got was treatment of families. Lack of daycare support for children of players on game day was a big issue.

                            Most interesting team was the Chiefs. Absolutely love their head coach (A+), and hate just about everything else about the organization (D+ overall).
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              One thing it shows is that players tend to like their head coach. MLF got a B+ grade, but that only ranked 21st. Worst grade the Packers got was treatment of families. Lack of daycare support for children of players on game day was a big issue.

                              Most interesting team was the Chiefs. Absolutely love their head coach (A+), and hate just about everything else about the organization (D+ overall).
                              Winning fixes most everything.

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                              • Originally posted by QBME View Post
                                Winning fixes most everything.
                                It also means that Andy can probably name his price.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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