Official Fire Jeff Hafley Thread

[MadtownPacker]

It was him or Flower's close buddy Staley

FLOWER likes FRIENDS

Asshole, every job you ever got was probably a friend or family connection.

[Fritz]

Need a disparaging nick-name, stat.

That's easy: Jeff Half-assley.

[George Cumby]

That's easy: Jeff Half-assley.

Boom!

There it is.

[RashanGary]

Haha, fritz has it. I’ll start spreading it around Twitter to make sure it catches on.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Haha, fritz has it. I’ll start spreading it around Twitter to make sure it catches on.

If the D continues to suck, I am fine with Half-wit.

[Fritz]

First time he blitzes and it doesn't get home and the other team scores on a long TD pass, I'll be screaming for his head!

[Bretsky]

Asshole, every job you ever got was probably a friend or family connection.

I wish this to be true; but the only job my parents ever helped me with was one I took at age 15 as a dishwasher, and then cook at a restaurant

[Frozen Tundra]

I was going to start this thread, but you beat me to it. I'll go on record, right from the start, as not liking this hire. MLF chose experience over results and teaching ability. This guy stunk at BC last year (worse than Barry before being hired by MLF). BC was worse against the pass than Barry's defense ever was against the run. I get that the Baltimore DB coach may well be the Baltimore DC now, but the Denver DB coach sounded good. And to top it off, we will have 3-4 personnel trying to run a 4-3. The defense will be a bigger problem next year than it was this year. They will need to have the next two drafts be near perfect and heavy on defense to make it work. Our only hope is Love and the receiving corps being like the StL Rams flying circus.

I'm glad to see someone else who's not looking at Hafley through green and gold colored glasses. I won't make the dire predictions you are, because we just don't have any way of knowing how it's going to work out. But I totally agree that Hafley got a ton of criticism for his coaching at BC, and there was a growing dissatisfaction with him. Word in Beantown was that his job was in jeopardy after starting 1-3 this past season, but they turned it around and ran up a winning streak before collapsing again in the last 3rd of the season. There are a lot of people there who are delighted to get rid of him, and that's rarely a good sign.

This is all not to even mention: why does Green Bay want this guy? His defenses at BC were not exactly stellar. The Eagles could hardly generate any pass rush this year, despite having preseason all-ACC defensive end Donovan Ezeiruaku. The Eagles got blown out of the water multiple times this season, including a game against Louisville in which they gave up 42 points in the first half. His teams were constantly undisciplined and committed countless penalties. And he didn’t really develop any significant talent on the defensive side of the ball.

https://www.bcinterruption.com/2024/1/31/24057548/opinion-jeff-hafley-fired-himself-bc-boston-college-football-fans-should-be-happy-green-bay-packers

So.... the jury's out. Matt hire dhim, so we have to give him some time and space to do his job, but there isn't aything about this guy that strongly suggests he's someone who can come in and save a failing defense.

[australianpackerbacker]

Let me be early. The defense has the talent to allow this guy to succeed with the overall team we have and hes in perfect position for us to lose him to a head coaching hire in2-3 years and Love and Gute will have been mainly accountable.

[Frozen Tundra]

Let me be early. The defense has the talent to allow this guy to succeed with the overall team we have and hes in perfect position for us to lose him to a head coaching hire in2-3 years and Love and Gute will have been mainly accountable.

And that's another way of looking at it - every bit as valid.

One thing I find encouraging as I go over his history is that in his postings as defensive position coaches, and as the Ohio defensive coordinator, he produced great results and is well-spoken of. It looks like maybe head coach of an entire college program might have just been a bridge too far for him. If that's the case, then we may be fortunate in being the team where he settles back down into his natural level of abilities.

[australianpackerbacker]

Yeah you're right. What I loved about Mike McCarthy was his ability to have a decent pulse of the football team and manage the players and the responsibility of keeping everyone on the same page whilst still calling plays and being able to deal with rodgers-ball.. it's tough and it's mainly why belichick is out of work..

That's what I like about lafluer in the sense he's a younger sharper version of that model and the guy we just hired seems to gel with that type of philosophy.

[Frozen Tundra]

Another things is, with all this massive NIL wealth that's suddenly available to good college athletes, plus this "transfer portal" madness that he destroyed college football, it's extremely difficult for the coach anything short of a Top 25 team or so to have any real success anymore. I thonk a lpot of college head coaches from the "little sister" D1 universities are going to be trying to do what he did in the years to come - get back to a football league where football is the focus.

In fact, just as I was typing that, I remembered a couple of days ago when a friend of Hafley's was explaining why he though Hafley made the move, and I googled it.

“He wants to go coach football again in a league that is all about football,” a source told Thamel. “College coaching has become fundraising, NIL and recruiting your own team and transfers. There’s no time to coach football anymore.”

So there ya go. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall, and realizes college football is just going to be too difficult to successfully coach going forward.

[texaspackerbacker]

Regarding the NIL (why we're discussing it in here I don't know hahahaha), I suspect a lot of that sort of thing was going on under the table all along, especially with teams like Ohio State and Alabama and a few others. Making it legal maybe will sort of give others as much chance as the cheaters.

[australianpackerbacker]

Yeah I totally get what you're saying. Competition in college sucks but it's a product of capitalism and talent conglomeration to where other talent like itself can be found. College from my perspective of how I waste my time in life isn't worth my attention because the complexities of why it is the way it is revolves around concepts like education and history and so much more that the commitment nfl doesn't involve.

In saying that the person who wins the most this cycle is Deion prime time. Transfer came at a convenient time for the most hyped coach in college ball possibly ever.

Good that he has commitment to the league. All the pieces are in place from my perspective

[australianpackerbacker]

It only matters because the idea that players could make enough to tell the league to fuck off, potentially would. Mostly all decisions are business decisions

Quoting Tex, not working atm