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  • #31
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Regarding the NIL (why we're discussing it in here I don't know hahahaha)....
    Sorry; thought the progression of the conversation was clear. We were speculating on why a college head coach making roughly $4,000,000 a year would quit his job to take a position of much lesser importance and authority that pays roughly 10% of that. And this is one of the circumstances that might factor into such a decision.

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    • #32
      I don't care so much about the NIL portion ruining college football. My BIGGEST worry with CFB is the seemingly unlimited transfer portal. THAT is what's killing the sport.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
        I don't care so much about the NIL portion ruining college football. My BIGGEST worry with CFB is the seemingly unlimited transfer portal. THAT is what's killing the sport.
        That is only accelerating with the NIL. Hey, if you transfer to college X we will give you $250,000 in NIL deals.
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #34
          It's always been crooked, college football. Does anyone really think Nebraska was a powerhouse in the early 70's without somehow getting kids to come out to the cornfields? Does anybody think Schembecler and Hayes recruited based on their sunny personalities? Or that the powerhouse Miami teams from, what, the 80's, were just nicely coached?

          It's just that now it's more open and the players get to benefit. But the rich keep getting richer, as do the cheaters. My own alma mater no exception.

          Thus I can see why someone like Haf-assley wanted out. All your time kowtowing to fifteen year old kids, having overnights with them, pretending you understand them and their unique problems, promising moms and dads you'll take care of junior like he was your own son, then going into the transfer portal to try to nab a kid from another program to replace the one you last year told mom and dad was a key piece of your puzzle.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #35
            Yeah, Fritz, that's what I was saying above - throw Urban Meyer in there too. I disagree, though, with the people saying college football is being ruined. It's alive and well IMO, and better because the transfer portal and NIL are making more parity or at least spreading around the winning to some extent. All I really care about college-wise is the Badgers, and they seem to be benefiting from transfers and probably NIL too. Probably fans of a lot of other teams are thinking the same.

            As for Hafley, I don't know why he jumped to the Packers, maybe all the non-football crap of a college head coaching job, maybe one of many other possible reasons. My guess would be that he wanted to move to the highest level - the NFL, and at some point, if he is any good, we'll lose him to a NFL head coaching job. Ironic that you're stuck with the guys who are mediocre but lose successes move on and up. I think that's what they call the "Peter Principle" - rising to a person's level of incompetence.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              That is only accelerating with the NIL. Hey, if you transfer to college X we will give you $250,000 in NIL deals.
              Yeah NIL and transfer portal has turned CFB into a mess. Not necessarily the concept, but the implementation. It more of less allows legal tampering and benefits that got a lot of football players and programs pilloried in years past.

              It's bad on coaches, they play all season to win, get a bowl game, and their best players sit out for the draft or transfer after the game to another U. They have to recruit nonstop, fund raise for NIL, and do a lot of other glad handing that is marginally football related at best.
              There literally is no break for coaches in CFB anymore, and they are starting to look at the pros with envy, which is interesting considering the in-season hours NFL coaches put in. At least they get time off though.

              Conference realignments (e.g., the death of the PAC12 and probably the ACC) are also doing no favors. Right now a lot of people think CFB is broken and a significant number of coaches want out.

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              • #37
                Imagine if in the NFL there was no salary cap, no revenue sharing and all the players were signed to 1 year contracts. That's pretty much what you have in CFB.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #38
                  But who's getting out of college coaching? Maybe the longtime cheats? Saban? Harbaugh? Legalizing what they probably got away with arguably is a good thing. I probably would not put Hafley in that crowd, though.
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                  • #39
                    I actually really like the Hafley pick... Barry was losing the locker room. .... We'll see what Hafley can do. This is a very talented roster.

                    Love him picking up the safety from the Giants. That spot has been a head ache since Collins went down it seems....

                    no. I forgot we had Amos for a few years. Real excited about this guy's coaching philosophy to be honest.




                    ..... Reminds me that I was big on the MLF pick a few years ago. Gives me the same hope, actually more even.

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                    • #40
                      This is the fire Hafley thread. Stop with all the positivity already.

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                      • #41
                        Well, now that they've signed McKinney, I expect the Packer defenses to give up no more than thirteen points per game. ONE TIME over that, and Half-Ass-ley's got to GO!!
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #42
                          The first time the opposing team converts a third down in Week 1 we'll want him canned.
                          When Valentine whiffs on a press attempt and gives up a 25 yarder we'll be screaming for Hafley's head on a platter.

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                          • #43
                            How does this guy still have a job?
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              How does this guy still have a job?
                              Did we get Bamboozled again ? This guy has never been a DC in his coaching career, and the team he left behind shed no tears when he jumped ship.
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #45
                                my first thought when we signed him was WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                then i started drinking the kool aide the packer talking heads were serving up

                                now i'm starting to think my initial reaction was the right one

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