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  • If the Bears keep Fields, I assume they are trading out of the top spot for a king's ransom. That would be worrisome to me, since all the picks they would get for trading out would net them a number of talented players.

    I think they take Caleb Williams. If they don't trade down and end up taking Marvin Jr. I will be surprised, and WAS and NE will be very, very happy. With WAS trading Sam Howell to SEA it's pretty clear they are taking a QB.

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      • The Steeler org has never been known to do packages of picks.

        League scuttlebutt is that the best offer for Fields has been a two.

        Dunno if they play after getting Russ.

        Surprised that they dealt Pickett, guess he moaned about the Wilson deal.

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        • I kinda feel dirty strategizing for the Bears, not quite as much as for the even worse enemy in Minnesota, but here goes:

          They might trade down if you believe the idea that several QBs are the most valuable commodities in the draft. I don't believe that. Caleb Williams in particular is overrated and a bust on the way to happening IMO. Maye? Penix? Nix? pretty much ditto. Meh at best for any of them. So what should the Bears do with the several high picks they might end up with? Load up on D, maybe; I've heard they're not very good in the O Line also. And even with Keenan Allen and Swift, they probably could use WR and RB help. The bottom line, though, is that whatever they do, the Bears will still suck - because they're the Bears. But with Fields and a big influx of new talent, it might be a little harder for their coaches to screw things up haahhaha.
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          • Bringing in a bunch of old guys like Byard and Allen tells me that the coaches and GM need to win desperately to keep their jobs. After 4 years of playing, Justin Fields is not a good NFL QB. It's extremely unlikely that will change, even with more talent around him.
            If they trade Fields and draft Caleb Williams, they basically have a QB coming into a coaching regime that is likely on its way out the door...bad for QB development. CHI is also bad at developing QBs period. As long as they don't solve their QB problem, they will suck.

            They might trade down if you believe the idea that several QBs are the most valuable commodities in the draft. I don't believe that.
            Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are easily better prospects than anyone who was drafted last year. Way too early to call them busts when they haven't even been drafted yet lol. Trouble is, CHI and WAS are at the top of the board as of today, and those organizations are train wrecks, so they will likely ruin those players. I think Jayden Daniels is a scary prospect - very boom or bust. Never liked Nix, although he improved as he aged into an old man at Oregon. I actually like Penix but he's old too and has an injury history. McCarthy is another interesting prospect but I wonder about the mental makeup. All these guys are better prospects than Kenny Pickett. I'd bet at least half of the top 6 QBs this year would have been taken ahead of Levis, Young or Stroud last year.

            It's a good QB class. I'm not the only one who thinks this. The consensus draft board agrees.

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            • Adam Schefter
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              Bears are trading Justin Fields for a 2025 6th-round pick that goes to a 4th-round pick based on playtime, per sources.
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              • Right move. How anyone thought Fields was the QB of the future in Chicago is beyond me. He doesn’t have the “it” factor.

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                • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                  Right move. How anyone thought Fields was the QB of the future in Chicago is beyond me. He doesn’t have the “it” factor.
                  A lot less than what they were originally hoping to get for him though. Bears don't have a pick in rounds 2, 5, 6 and 7.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
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                  • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    A lot less than what they were originally hoping to get for him though. Bears don't have a pick in rounds 2, 5, 6 and 7.
                    Two things: first, to whom has he been traded?

                    And secondly, for a team that is so far from contention, about to start over with a rookie QB, WTF are they doing trading for 32 year old wide receivers and signing old running backs and ending up after fleecing Carolina last year with no picks in rounds two, five, six, and seven?

                    THE BEAR STILL SUCK.

                    HARD.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                    • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Two things: first, to whom has he been traded?

                      And secondly, for a team that is so far from contention, about to start over with a rookie QB, WTF are they doing trading for 32 year old wide receivers and signing old running backs and ending up after fleecing Carolina last year with no picks in rounds two, five, six, and seven?

                      THE BEAR STILL SUCK.

                      HARD.
                      Pittsburgh
                      Because they're the Bears
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                        Right move. How anyone thought Fields was the QB of the future in Chicago is beyond me. He doesn’t have the “it” factor.
                        As many (maybe most) of you folks know, I have a very limited football IQ.
                        I can tell you this - Justin Fields has all the tools to be an elite NFL quarter back. He was drafted by the Bears (bad luck), "developed" under three different OC's and systems. He is loved and respected in the locker room.

                        Justin Fields is broken.
                        Best case scenario is he gets to a team that has a season or two, with a genuine QB coach and OC to fix him.

                        In todays NFL world thats not probable.
                        Which sucks.

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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Pittsburgh
                          Because they're the Bears
                          This. Also, whatever QB they pick, it will be the wrong one.

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                          • Originally posted by QBME View Post
                            As many (maybe most) of you folks know, I have a very limited football IQ.
                            I can tell you this - Justin Fields has all the tools to be an elite NFL quarter back. He was drafted by the Bears (bad luck), "developed" under three different OC's and systems. He is loved and respected in the locker room.

                            Justin Fields is broken.
                            Best case scenario is he gets to a team that has a season or two, with a genuine QB coach and OC to fix him.

                            In todays NFL world thats not probable.
                            Which sucks.
                            Pittsburgh ain't that team though. And I don't think it would matter. I don't think Fields can read defenses well enough to be great. But there certainly will be teams in the NFL this year with starting QB's worse than Fields.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              Pittsburgh ain't that team though. And I don't think it would matter. I don't think Fields can read defenses well enough to be great. But there certainly will be teams in the NFL this year with starting QB's worse than Fields.
                              Plus, you know there's going to be drama, friction, and personality conflict in the quarterback room with Russell Wilson as the starter. That atmosphere's sure not going to help Fields rebuild himself.

                              Still, a hell of a deal for Pittsburgh. As much as a wild card as Russell Wilson is, they got an at least somehwta capable backup for as little as a 6th-Rounder. The Bears were desperate to be rid of him.

                              Dman, I'm going to miss him though.

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                              • hahahaha It looks like I was wrong. The Bears really are that stupid. It's no accident they still suck, I guess.
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