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Weird for Pittsburgh, too, in a way. So . . . he's the backup to Russell Wilson? The Steelers seem to have two broken QB's now.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostPittsburgh
Because they're the Bears
Boy, the Bears really are weird. They are really pulling some head-scratching moves."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I don't understand the Steelers on this one, other than getting another limp piece of spaghetti to throw at a wall. They need a good draft pick to develop and not a failed Bears QB.Originally posted by Fritz View PostWeird for Pittsburgh, too, in a way. So . . . he's the backup to Russell Wilson? The Steelers seem to have two broken QB's now.
Boy, the Bears really are weird. They are really pulling some head-scratching moves.
The Bears are just stupid. Their coach needs to win now to keep his job, but the Bears have no QB and a ton of draft capital, which puts them a couple years away, if they have a competent and stable coaching staff. What they have is a recipe to ruin the best QB in the draft.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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The Steelers hired Arthur Smith as OC, he got Tannehill productive for TEN back in the day. If they can get Fields to sit for a year Smith might be able to revive Fields' career. It's 50/50. Russell Wilson is a weird move but they need a competent QB and Pickett wasn't it. Wilson comes dirt cheap for PIT and might be a bit humbled after DEN, who knows. He started out trash but looked better from the GB game on so there might be something there still. I doubt Tomlin puts up with a lot of Wilson's weird shit.
Not surprised CHI dealt Fields, I think that was the general belief. Don't see how they trade down or not take a QB now. And yes, they have a recipe to ruin a good QB talent.
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part of me is a bit worried that the bears are gonna draft the top QB in the draft. the other part of me realizes that this isn't the first time they've drafting a QB high, and they've managed to screw them all up so farOriginally posted by Patler View PostSo, already the Bears will be on their third starting QB during the Jordan Love Era in GB.
Some things never change.
plus celeb doesn't strike me as elite, and he has a very high opinion of himself, and might become a headache, like refusing to play for them, or demanding to be part owner (yes, he did say this was a requirement for the team drafting him, even though its against the rules)
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De'vondre Campbell had some things to say, mainly about Packers defensive coaching staff. Here's the link to his twitter account if you want to see everything he's responding to. https://twitter.com/Came_Along_Way
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Listen man.. There’s so much I could say but for the longest I just kept it to myself and kept taking the blame. I don’t work for the organization anymore so anytime I see some false information I’m going to correct it and tell the truth. If you don’t wanna hear the truth sorry
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Why yall keep saying I trashed the Packers?? I never ONCE said anything negative about the organization. Best organization I’ve ever been apart of at this point but it’s some coaches I lost ALL respect for
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Fast forward to 2022, 2023 season I tried to be a team guy and play within the system and do what they asked “Be more visual on QB and not look up routes” “Back up from LOS so I’m not pressing every WR or TE” Look at what happened. They had me, Quay out there looking clueless smh
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
The organization didn’t even call me to ask if I wanted to take a pay cut. They just released me after going in the media and saying me and Aaron jones were apart of the future plans. They could’ve just told me the truth. I could easily be bitter but I’m not.
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Because we ran a split safety system meaning we use our safeties a lot in the run fit so if I shoot my gap before the safety triggers we can get gashed so most of the time me and quay were just tryna buy time for our safeties to get there. We don’t have MOFC structure
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
You wanna know why we played better??? Because I started going and having private meetings with Matt telling him we needed to be more aggressive. We needed more man and we needed to blitz more and what happened when they listened to me. WE PLAYED WELL AND WON ITS NO COINCIDENCE
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
I love all the fans that love me. The 3 years I spent in GB were definitely special and I appreciate all the support you guys have given me over the last 3 years. Hope you guys enjoy your SundayLast edited by Joemailman; 03-17-2024, 08:10 PM.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Wow, that is shocking.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostDe'vondre Campbell had some things to say, mainly about Packers defensive coaching staff. Here's the link to his twitter account if you want to see everything he's responding to. https://twitter.com/Came_Along_Way
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Listen man.. There’s so much I could say but for the longest I just kept it to myself and kept taking the blame. I don’t work for the organization anymore so anytime I see some false information I’m going to correct it and tell the truth. If you don’t wanna hear the truth sorry
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Why yall keep saying I trashed the Packers?? I never ONCE said anything negative about the organization. Best organization I’ve ever been apart of at this point but it’s some coaches I lost ALL respect for
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Fast forward to 2022, 2023 season I tried to be a team guy and play within the system and do what they asked “Be more visual on QB and not look up routes” “Back up from LOS so I’m not pressing every WR or TE” Look at what happened. They had me, Quay out there looking clueless smh
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
The organization didn’t even call me to ask if I wanted to take a pay cut. They just released me after going in the media and saying me and Aaron jones were apart of the future plans. They could’ve just told me the truth. I could easily be bitter but I’m not.
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Because we ran a split safety system meaning we use our safeties a lot in the run fit so if I shoot my gap before the safety triggers we can get gashed so most of the time me and quay were just tryna buy time for our safeties to get there. We don’t have MOFC structure
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
You wanna know why we played better??? Because I started going and having private meetings with Matt telling him we needed to be more aggressive. We needed more man and we needed to blitz more and what happened when they listened to me. WE PLAYED WELL AND WON ITS NO COINCIDENCE
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
I love all the fans that love me. The 3 years I spent in GB were definitely special and I appreciate all the support you guys have given me over the last 3 years. Hope you guys enjoy your Sunday
I guess that reinforces some of the things we were seeing over and over, game after game during the first 2/3 of the season.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Rasul traded half way through the season. Campbell obviously not happy. Jaire having an off year and then suspended a game. Kind of amazing they avoided a total breakdown on defense. I suspect MLF knew after the TB game he needed a new DC. Just didn't want to do it during the season, which I think was the right move.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostWow, that is shocking.
I guess that reinforces some of the things we were seeing over and over, game after game during the first 2/3 of the season.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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unreal stuff
don't even know what to say about it all, other then it makes sense
and we all knew the defensive staff was a complete fucking joke. its nice to see some players finally coming out and confirming it. too bad it has to be from "former players"
sucks that it seems like some of the guys who might have had a problem with the shit scheme were punished or removed from the team (douglas, campbell, alexander)
shame on lefleur for letting that crap go on so long, but good on him for FINALLY stepping in and doing something about the mess
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It's like when I buy too many groceries that will go bad before I can cook them BUT THEY WERE ON SALE!Originally posted by MadScientist View PostI don't understand the Steelers on this one, other than getting another limp piece of spaghetti to throw at a wall. They need a good draft pick to develop and not a failed Bears QB.
Pittsbugh needs an above-replacement-level quarterback. Russ is One Year Veteran Cheap. Justin is One Year Rookie Cheap. But Pittsburgh has to decide if they want to exercise Fields' $25M extension two weeks after offseason workouts start, one week after the draft, and two months before training camp. Their yay-or-nay decision is going to determine which one of them is a lame-duck quarterback.
Or they could use a Day 1-2 pick on a QB and make both feel like lame ducks.I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.
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I remember a lot of us were starting to suspect that there was maybe some ugly business going on behind those closed doors the last month and a half or so, but I'm wondering now if it may have been worse than we imagined. Campbell clearly has a hell of a lot he wants to get off his chest; pretty good bet he's not the only one.Originally posted by red View Postsucks that it seems like some of the guys who might have had a problem with the shit scheme were punished or removed from the team (douglas, campbell, alexander)
shame on lefleur for letting that crap go on so long, but good on him for FINALLY stepping in and doing something about the mess
I wonder if we'll hear more. Players who are staying are certainly not going to open up as much as that on the record, and it doesn't look like we're going to lose many more in free agency. Maybe Savage will have something to say down the road (although he doesn't seem like the type), and of course in a few months there will be camp cuts. I think our best chance at getting bits of gossip and juicy hints will be as the season unfolds, we'll hear players say things like, "yeah, we really balled out, everybody knew what their assignment was and how we were supposed to do it. Been a while since things felt like that around here."
If it really was this bad, I'm all the more impressed with how much the team as a whole accomplished tis season.
And I agree with you - shame on Lafleur for letting this turn into what it really now appears to have turned into. One thing I've seen about Lafleur that I respect and admire is that he does seem to learn from his mistakes, even if it sometimes take a while. Hopefully he learned a big, big lesson from this one. Being a head coach is pretty damned complicated, and one of the true measures of whether someone is going to be good at it is how they learn from their mistakes and move on. Because one way or the other, they're going to make a hell of a lot of them, and if they have to keep making the same ones over and over again because they don't learn, their job is going to be a lot harder than it needs to be.
Especially ones like this, because this one appears to have been a big one.
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It probably depends on their strategy for building a team over the next several years. Wilson's obviously not a longterm option, and they don't draft early enough to snag a top QB prospect. So the obvious question becomes, what longterm solution do they have in mind?Originally posted by MadScientist View PostI don't understand the Steelers on this one, other than getting another limp piece of spaghetti to throw at a wall. They need a good draft pick to develop and not a failed Bears QB.
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They may feel they don't have many other options, or any quick solutions. They're consistently good enough that there's no "Top 10" draft pick in the foreseeable future, so it may be that they've decided the only way they can fill that position is through free agency or draft and develop a Day 2 or late 1st Round project. Maybe they're thinking that Fields is at the very least a guy who can keep the team competitive (and the fan base content) if Wilson goes "worst case scenario" on them, and at best a guy who can keep the team above .500 while they work on solving the overal QB problem. Which may be the best they can realistically hope for.
It's not as though Fields doesn't have at least some value and usefullness. He sucks, but it's not because he has no skills - he actually has a lot of NFL-level tools. It's just that he's been a Bear his entire career, and never learned how to reliably play the position at a consistent level. Maybe they think they have a chance to get something out of him that the Bears were never able to do, at least keep them competitive for their fans while they pray for rain.
But yeah, you're right - their future is bleak. Going to be very hard for them to reload; a complete rebuild may be their only way forward. Not an easy path for any GM to accept and commit to.
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